whats with todays gameage?

Discussion in 'Energy Futures' started by stock777, May 31, 2007.

  1. Methinks the funds are playing many games.
     
  2. you would be correct. you need ICE to see whats happening though, you won't pick it up with globex.
     
  3. What do you see different with ICE versus Globex?
     
  4. I got royally F-ed today with Crude when I shorted CL at $62.9.

    Bought RB here at 2.2

    I'm tired of the futures market action this week - equities, energies and forex.

    :confused:
     
  5. For sure, I have been unable to get in sync. Maybe its just me.
     
  6. The overwhelming majority of the volume in natty is executed on ICE. Ice is the playground of funds for several reasons.

    First, ICE is just an execution platform for OTC which is unregulated at this time.

    Second, OTC contracts are just financially settled swaps. They DO NOT need to be closed out before expiry as there is no physical delivery on them like NYMEX contracts. So a fund can amass a large unmanageable position and let it die off with expiry!!!

    Third, ICE final settlement IS the NYMEX final settlement. This creates an arb between the 2 thus allowing the guys with the most $$ to manipulate the NYMEX with size yet be unregulated!!

    Don't like it?? Just STFU and pay your hedge fund tax (utility bill).
     
  7. Manipulation?

    didnt SEC act of 1932 eliminate all that ?
     
  8. Cheese

    Cheese

    CL/QM, a traders delight. Today 75 up, 150 down, 150 up (cents that is). Just play those intra-session gyrations. Your legs will buckle under the weight of all money you can carry off daily.
    :)
     
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    CFTC head is ex Gold man sacks!! Ain't your administration grand!!