What's with Greenspan?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by topten, Apr 21, 2004.

  1. well, what do you expect, its harrytrader. I dont even read his BS anymore- he thinks everything is a conspiracy, the govt is corrupt, eveyone is out to screw him over, it gets pretty frickin old.....

    I heard that institutional traders have been logging into harrytraders account secretly, seeing his positions, then squeezing him. They are of course in cahoots with the crooked specialists and Dick Grasso whose sole mission in life is to take harrytrader's money and make him unhappy. :D :D
     
    #21     Apr 22, 2004
  2. pspr

    pspr

    You know Harry, French isn't a race. So how can the fact that I find you contemptible be racist? I think that idiot Jacques Chirac suffers from the same inaccurate assumptions about Americans.

    We hate the French because every time you need someone to die for your country you call on us. But when we need some help in return you not only refuse but you go out of your way to stab us in the back.

    Then where do you get off telling us how to run our government, politics and social behavior? You should be more concerned with cleaning up the corruption in your own dirty little backwater country.

    And, talk about technical argument, the only thing you know to do is quote some antiquated web page with a conspiracy slant. Shame on you!

     
    #22     Apr 22, 2004
  3. Cesko

    Cesko

    :cool:
     
    #23     Apr 22, 2004
  4. Cheese

    Cheese

    Sure as hell right about the frogs .. they are horse traders.

    They have a very long and ancient royal and republican history of expediency and self interest and as for anything they don't like well they blame anyone but themselves.

    But if you stand on their fingers they do understand that!
     
    #24     Apr 22, 2004
  5. And is the FAQ of the FED gives the stockholders of the FED as inquired by the CONGRESS in 1976 (because without that Enquiry It wouldn't even be known haha !)

    OWNERSHIP OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE
    Most Americans, if they know anything at all about the Federal Reserve,
    believe it is an agency of the United States Government.
    This article charts the true nature of the "National Bank."

    Chart 1
    Source: ** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence ** - - Published 1976

    Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks. Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.

    N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
    ______________________________________
    | |
    | J. Henry Schroder
    | Banking | Corp.
    | |
    Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
    & Company & Company Brothers |
    | | | |
    --------------------| -------| | |
    | | | | | |
    Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
    & Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
    | | / | N.Y. |
    | | | | | |
    | Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
    | of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
    | 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
    | / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
    | / | \Schroder Bank
    | / | Hamburg/Berlin
    | / Drexel & Company /
    | / Philadelphia /
    | / /
    | / Lord Airlie
    | / /
    | / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
    | | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
    | | | grand-daughter of Otto
    | | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
    | | |
    | | |
    Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
    | | --------------------------
    | | | |
    | | | |
    Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
    | | __|______________________|_________
    Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
    - ------------------------- | | |
    | | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
    _____________|_______________/ |
    | | | | |
    Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
    | | | \
    Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
    | | | \
    Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
    / | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
    / Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
    / | George F. Baker
    | / |
    | / |
    | / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
    | / |
    | / Thomas Fortune Ryan
    | | |
    | | |
    Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
    |||||||| |
    ______National City Bank N. Y. |
    | | |
    | National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
    | | \
    | Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
    | | \
    | Chase National Bank N.Y. \
    | |
    | |
    Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
    - ----------------------------------------- |
    | /
    James Stillman /
    Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
    Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
    William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
    J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
    M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
    Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
    J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
    NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
    Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
    | Jacob Schiff
    | Thomas F. Ryan
    | Paul Warburg
    | Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
    |
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    Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
    - -------------------------------------------
    J.P. Morgan
    George F. Baker
    George F. Baker Jr.
    Edith Brevoort Baker
    US Congress - 1946-64
    |
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    Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
    - ------------------------------------------
    James Stillman
    William Rockefeller
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    Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
    - ---------------------------------------
    George F. Baker
     
    #25     Apr 25, 2004
  6. Oh yeah I quoted Galbraith (can find his book on amazon), Friedman (the article is still on the federal reserve site) well reknown economists and Congress reports (the litteral text have been quoted), so isn't that you're a little lack of say "intelligence" especially when one refers to history and your argument is what : that it is antitiquated ? Oh so for you history is what happened 1 year or maybe even 5 minutes ago haha :D.

    Let's take for example the above chart of the FED owner in 1976 congress inquiry, don't you think that it would be important to know the shareholders of the FED ? Why don't they talk about the shareholders in their FAQ ? Did you ever see ONE NORMAL CORPORATION that the main shareholders are not mentionned ?!!! So how is it that for such an important corporate the subject is not even in the title ? And you know why it is antiquitated because A SPECIAL ENQUIRY WAS NECESSARY BY THE CONGRESS TO JUST KNOW THEIR NAMES DO YOU FIND THAT NORMAL ?

     
    #26     Apr 25, 2004
  7. If you don't like Galbraith this is from Milton Friedman:

    "When the Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913, its major purpose was to prevent 'banking panics' as they were called, temporary crises that had occurred in the United States in 1907 and during earlier periods. What it did was to preside over the worst banking panic in the history of the United States. Not only did the quantity of money go down by a third, but about a third of the banks failed and in the Spring of 1933, the Federal Reserve System, which had been set up to prevent banking panics, closed its doors itself and stopped operating. "
     
    #27     Apr 25, 2004