What's the Biggest Reason Why Traders Fail?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by schizo, Jan 21, 2024.

Why do so many traders fail?

Poll closed Feb 20, 2024.
  1. Being undercapitalized

    13 vote(s)
    26.5%
  2. Not having a trading plan

    15 vote(s)
    30.6%
  3. Lack of discipline (eg. too emotional and not following a trading plan)

    20 vote(s)
    40.8%
  4. Lack of knowledge or experience (eg. either too dumb or too arrogant)

    15 vote(s)
    30.6%
  5. Lack of focus (eg. jack of all trades, master of none)

    11 vote(s)
    22.4%
  6. Poor money- and risk-management (eg. taking on too much risk)

    26 vote(s)
    53.1%
  7. Impatience (eg. always getting in and out too soon)

    13 vote(s)
    26.5%
  8. Overconfidence (eg. IT'S DIFFERENT THIS TIME!!!)

    16 vote(s)
    32.7%
  9. Being emotionally tied to the stocks

    8 vote(s)
    16.3%
  10. Being emotionally tied to the market direction (eg. alway bullish)

    8 vote(s)
    16.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. schizo

    schizo

    First of all, I completely agree with this assessment.

    Well, you don't post any trades. You don't share any trading ideas. All you write are the same useless things. How am I to believe that you're not a hoax?

    So here's the deal. Why don't you get your ass over to ES JOURNAL and post your trades in real time? That's only fair, considering that I've posted 1000s of real time trades over the years. If I can do it, I'm sure you can too.
     
    #61     Jan 22, 2024
  2. Hello schizo,

    lol, why would I post my trades on a public internet for? Does Goldman Sachs post their trades on ET website for public display.

    I do not care about your ES Journal, that is your business buddy.

    I am not asking you to believe what I am post on ET website.

    Everyone asking me questions, I not asking any of you questions. I know all the answers already, im making money, and that what all matters to me. And it comes easy and not working hard in the ES futures market either. I'm not working hard.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2024
    #62     Jan 22, 2024
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  3. themickey

    themickey


    Surely the number one contributing factor of failure would be charts.
    The alure of their simplicity.
    The strong power they have over traders decisions.
    Their power to rope so many into trading.
    Culminating in something like 90% failure rate.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2024
    #63     Jan 22, 2024
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  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    And with the money you made you can enjoy those 10 years!
     
    #64     Jan 22, 2024
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  5. schizo

    schizo

    Well, Goldman Sachs isn't run by a bunch of ignoramuses either (not that I'm calling you one). By your own admission, you seem to know nothing about trading (neither fundamental nor technical) other than trading by the seat of your pants. And, again by your own admission, you're wildly successful day after day.

    The way we're arguing in circles feels more like this is a kangaroo court than a trading forum. I have nothing more say, your honor. :sneaky:
     
    #65     Jan 22, 2024
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  6. .

    This is how I see it too.

    I would add that there may be a hierarchy of reasons:

    1. Most traders do not use a method or system, whether systematic or discretionary.
    2. Some traders do have a system, but it is not one that would actually be profitable if traded consistently.
    3. Some traders do have a system that could be profitable if traded with discipline, but they do not do so.
    4. Some traders do have a profitable strategy and they do trade it with discipline, but the returns are near breakeven because the system is only weakly profitable after factoring in trading fees and other costs.
     
    #66     Jan 22, 2024
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  7. He’s harmless like Stoney, let them pontificate! :)
     
    #67     Jan 22, 2024
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  8. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Arrogance and truly miscalculating risk.
     
    #68     Jan 22, 2024
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    But we tell our wives and friends that day trading is not gambling, day trading is a business, is our new "job".

    As for me, I admit, I do not have an edge, not yet. :D
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2024
    #69     Jan 22, 2024
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  10. Until you can unveil the lie.

    Like how it looks like a breakout but its a stop run before reversal.

    Like a human,a lying chart has tells.
     
    #70     Jan 22, 2024
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