Whats going on with all these people ready to give up their rights?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 29, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    When my father came back home from the army after WW2.
    And the theaters were shutdown, pools closed, and everyone locked down with no travel due to the polio epidemics in the late 40s.
    The G.I.'s did not whine like little biatches about their "rights".
    They stayed the F#@k home and followed the public health guidance.
     
    #301     Apr 28, 2020
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  2. Hotcakes

    Hotcakes


    That's the first I've heard of it. National bankrupting lockdowns after WW2 for polio?

    Have any links for that ?
     
    #302     Apr 28, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Go research the history of polio in the U.S.

    Use the CDC as a starting point.

    https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html

    "In the late 1940s, polio outbreaks in the U.S. increased in frequency and size, crippling an average of more than 35,000 people each year. Parents were frightened to let their children go outside, especially in the summer when the virus seemed to peak. Travel and commerce between affected cities were sometimes restricted. Public health officials imposed quarantines (used to separate and restrict the movement of well people who may have been exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become ill) on homes and towns where polio cases were diagnosed."
     
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    #303     Apr 28, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Didn't polio surface in the US somewhere in the 1910s? The saulk vaccine wasn't around until the early 50s. We shut down everything for 40 some-odd years?
     
    #304     Apr 28, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The peak of Polio in the U.S. was in the late 40s and early 50s
     
    #305     Apr 28, 2020
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So it took some 30 years to get to a point where it got people to panic. And why are we comparing it to Covid again?
     
    #306     Apr 28, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Because it was not a large-scale epidemic in the U.S. until the late 40s / early 50s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_polio

    It is interesting to note that the peak times follow world wars when soldiers came back from overseas. But it was much worse in the 1940s than the 1910s in the U.S.
     
    #307     Apr 28, 2020
  8. jem

    jem

    How long did they shutdown the country for? Seriously.. .I don't know.
    I heard stories about polio but I never heard my grandparents say they got kicked out of work.

    so I am wondering.

     
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    #308     Apr 28, 2020
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    It depends on if they lived in a place where polio broke out. When it did break out in your city, town, or region then lockdowns, quarantines, travel restrictions etc. occurred.

    The world was not "globally connected" after WW2 like it is today with air travel & fast transit. By applying lockdowns in a local area and not allowing travel by train/car in or out of it.... it was possible to get polio under control (somewhat) when it flared up.
     
    #309     Apr 30, 2020
  10. You bitched and moaned about my legal analysis and reliance on precedent like partisan bee aches instead of listening to the arguments.....well Supreme Court proved me right.... a CONSERVATIVE SC.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...xwwavK9LvycQGxBJGgZI1QYJwzeWo66IllXpNke-mKrwc

    Supreme Court declines to lift Pennsylvania COVID-19 health order

    The Supreme Court on Wednesday denied a request to halt an order Pennsylvania's governor entered in March to close businesses in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

    The petitioners, a conservative political action committee and several businesses, told the justices that Gov. Tom Wolf's (D) executive order "has and is continuing to cause irreparable harm."

    The court’s denial of the request, issued without comment, means fewer than five of the nine justices supported the petition.


    The outcome was unsurprising given the Supreme Court’s long recognition of broad government authority amid public health crises. Previously, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania also denied the petitioners' request.

    Earlier this week, Pennsylvania's attorney general filed a 43-page response to the justices defending the legality of Wolf’s order and urging the high court not to intervene.

    “Applicants seek to upend the status quo and force Pennsylvania to prematurely reopen all business locations, regardless of public health data and contrary to the phased reopening currently underway based on that data,” the state’s attorney general Josh Shapiro wrote.
    “Such a premature precipitous action, according to experts, will cost lives,” he added.

     
    #310     May 6, 2020
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