Whats going on with all these people ready to give up their rights?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 29, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are welcome to your opinion above --- because that is all it is.

    You are not welcome to your own facts -- count on nonfactual nonsense you post to be corrected.
     
    #261     Apr 21, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I know you do. You've always been good about separating your opinion and calling it out appropriately.

    We shall see if your prophecy about these protesters comes true. I have no doubt you will return to provide the article or two that calls out a few of the cases that came from protesting - scientifically proven or otherwise.
     
    #262     Apr 21, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I respect and understand your viewpoint, but I don't agree with much of the stuff you claim on the severity of the outbreak - mostly because the data used to support both sides of the argument is so convoluted and incomplete.

    I know you are a fellow Floridian. What are your thoughts on DeSantis and his latest message?

     
    #263     Apr 21, 2020
  4. That is the tragedy. The protesters themselves deserve whatever may be coming to them. The facts have been made available to them by experts, but they choose to listen to Trump U grads instead. So I have little sympathy for them. It is the innocent people who they will take down with them that I find very upsetting.
     
    #264     Apr 21, 2020
  5. I believe Florida has some advantages with the large senior citizen population, most of them tend to stay in sheltered communities and simply enhanced that self stay at home when this hit. With the time of the year and weather the most at risk in the state with the most at risk people were social distancing and protecting themselves pretty well in my opinion. I think though DeSantis is fine to take the risk of opening up becaus the elderly will mostly stay away from crowds. But he is naive to other things.

    What DeSantis is completely clueless on is this:

    Leaving the beaches opened on Spring Break and allowing people from many of the OTHER states to be there in large groups more than a month after the first cases were spreading shows ignorance on his part. All of those people went back to their States and help the spread to some extent given the tracking of the cell phones that occurred. Kind of like China bragging about how well they handled it but ignoring the people they let spread it elsewhere.

    Disney World shutting down (not DeSantis) definitely cut down a lot of cross border carrying of the virus.

    Question is what does he do now if he wants people to simply go back to normal without any proper testing conditions? Is he more worried about his job or keeping Floridians safe?
     
    #265     Apr 21, 2020
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I just may just meet your request. The reality however is that I may refrain from doing that because it is sort of harsh to cheer on the death of others from a deadly disease in a worldwide pandemic.

    However if an article shows the chain of impacted innocent people caused by a liberate infected person who took no cautions to distance themselves or quarantine -- then I will likely post this information to serve as a warning about the consequences that extend beyond the individual.
     
    #266     Apr 21, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Your narrative is counting on it.
     
    #267     Apr 21, 2020
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I don't know. I hope he is beginning to understand that the economic cost to people is far greater than the potential risk of an overblown crisis. Don't get me wrong, I believe this is a nasty virus. But its not as bad as is being claimed, and we will likely never know how wrong they were because they'll never admit it.

    My guess is we will open back up and this will fade from memory with everyone scratching their heads as to why we did what we did. But we'll keep on being told "it was for our own good". Those who were pushing the narrative of the end of the world will immediately pivot and claim we avoided the apocalypse because we isolated (ignoring that they told us to isolate far longer and in much more harsh a manner). Its a no lose for the narrative.
     
    #268     Apr 21, 2020
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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    #269     Apr 21, 2020
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yeah, this is pretty dumb. Darwin pushed "Survival of the Fittest". He'd probably advocate for Herd Immunity, not the "shelter in place and cower" approach.
     
    #270     Apr 21, 2020
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