What type of a track record do prop firms think is good enough prior to funding you?

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Tall Mike, Aug 25, 2023.

  1. whygodwhy

    whygodwhy

    Serious answer. They want to see that you can control risk and have positive expectancy with low variance. Risk-adjusted return needs to be reasonable, but their criteria for reasonable depends on their agenda (aggressive, growth, etc.). 1 year of good trading isn't unreasonable if you're new to the game and show them that you know what you're doing and can be worth spending a little time and money on to further flourish your skills.

    A lot of online options are available now, but there aren't the firms you're thinking of. At least it's something to get started on.

    Apteros Trading offers tryouts to sit on their live prop desk, so that may be your most time-efficient option, or at the very least the option if you don't have a decent history of successful trading. You can use them initially and then have an exit-strategy for another firm. You can try out for 2 months (pay about $600) and then they scale you to account size relative to your skills, and you could realistically be looking at managing multiple MM relatively quickly.

    https://www.apterostrading.com/

    Not affiliated with them in any way, but know someone who went through the process successfully. Same with the company listed below:

    TopStep

    www.topstep.com
     
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    #11     Aug 26, 2023
  2. whygodwhy

    whygodwhy

    My dog likes to lick my ass and I'm cool with it. 299.00 has its use.
     
    #12     Aug 26, 2023
  3. destriero

    destriero

    My point was that MrMuppet was clearly being sarcastic.
     
    #13     Aug 26, 2023
  4. whygodwhy

    whygodwhy

    Got it.
     
    #14     Aug 26, 2023
  5. rb7

    rb7

    Not everybody has >10M$ or >100M$ AUM.
    The small fish don't get any attention from anyone.
    Also, a high p.a. come with proportional risks.
     
    #15     Aug 27, 2023
  6. Why so angry? I think you need to catch up on that sleep you keep mentioning every other post.

    Show us how much money you made on Monday with an actual P&L statement, but make sure you catch up on that sleep first. :)
     
    #16     Aug 27, 2023
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  7. taojaxx

    taojaxx

    Last job offer I ran into on LinkedIn, they were requesting a Sharpe above 3.
    I don't do 3 Sharpes, I just don't.
    Mid 2's on nice markets and mid 1's over the cycle (Nice market+ Shitty market combined). And that's with 35% SD and close to 50% max drawdown for a puny close to mid-double digit CAGR.
    So I guess I don't qualify.
    Heck, I didn't even know consistent 3's existed. Jesse Livermore and Niederhoffer maybe but it didn't necessarily end well.
     
    #17     Aug 27, 2023
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  8. Curious. What was the offer?
     
    #18     Aug 27, 2023
  9. taojaxx

    taojaxx

    Looked for it but couldn't locate it. Maybe they pulled it? Or they found that golden needle in haystack.
     
    #19     Aug 27, 2023
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    You know why people seek external capital even if they don’t need it?

    it diversifies their risk and can give them an higher expected value by either getting a beta higher than 1 or creating a cheap call option.

    that’s why rich movie producers still source outside funding. And why real estate developers look for partners when doing projects.

     
    #20     Aug 27, 2023
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