What trading style is better...slow and steady..or hitting homeruns once in a while?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by gimp570, May 24, 2007.

best trading style for the long term

  1. slow and steady....

    65 vote(s)
    75.6%
  2. Looking for the big trade.

    21 vote(s)
    24.4%
  1. gnome

    gnome

    Play for your regular, steady size and move. But when there is a BIG setup, play for bigger and hope you get away with it.
     
    #21     May 26, 2007
  2. A high win rate with smaller wins and less variation is better (if the expectancy is the same).

    Thats because a lower standard deviation translates into a lower risk of ruin. And with a lower risk of ruin you can bet bigger = win bigger.

    From a human perspective the high winrate lower winsize is easier to trade because the drawdowns are rarer and smaller.
     
    #22     May 26, 2007
  3. fhl

    fhl

    Actually, there was a large article in last weeks local paper featuring interviews with long ball hitters Ken Griffey, Harmon Kilebrew, and Frank Thomas. Each of them explained that they did indeed many times try to hit home runs. Frank Thomas said it was usually a couple of times every game for him. The others had different variations of when it might be appropriate to try and jack one. But, they do try to hit homers.
     
    #23     May 26, 2007
  4. Too funny. I just read that piece in the Sporting News.
     
    #24     May 26, 2007
  5. Ill agree with this. Psychologically any low risk grind is easier to manage and will have less variance. You avoid the big ups and downs.

    I was just talking to some of the other traders in the office about this. 2 tend to trade a more grinding style where as I make about 80% of my gains off 3 or 4 moves. The bottom line is do whatever makes you money
     
    #25     May 26, 2007
  6. I try to bat .900 in my trading, then, once in a while, when everything comes together, my ducks are in a row, and the market throws me that hanging curve ball, I love to smack it out of the park.
     
    #26     May 26, 2007
  7. gimp570

    gimp570


    I think ...thats right .just go slow and steady with a high winning % and the HR's just come...but if all you do is look for the big trades then...the ups and downs are just too much to handle
     
    #27     May 27, 2007
  8. As a scalper, I'm often envious of ppl who seem to have the knack for the buy and hold game due to its many advantages, but I've always found success easier in the shortest time frames.

    You make some good points and I'm curious what sort of stock screening methods you use for your small cap picks. Also, do you ever play any large caps as maybe a hedge for some of the spec risk?

    Thanks for your post.
     
    #28     May 27, 2007
  9. Grinding:

    Pros:

    If you know what you're doing, you'll likely be able to ring the register almost every day.

    You will be very in tune with the market as you follow it play by play.

    Cons:

    You're probably going to do tons of spins.

    Homeruns/Holding Out for more than a scalp

    Pros:

    You will be more efficient with your spins if you're not in/out all the time.

    Less mental effort involved.

    Cons:

    Sometimes those big plays just arent there, and you'll go through longer dry spells.

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    Ultimately, as a short term trader, if you can find a way to grind it out, you're going to have some advantages.

    A) You can always find a way to make money.
    B) You're going to be very in tune with your market since you're following it play by play.

    As you gain experience, if you can learn to identify which setups will let you take bigger winners and then use your scalping ability to time entries/exits, you will be on your way to being an exceptional trader.

    The key here is that the trader's intuition needs to guide him/her to what the appropriate play is given what the market is presently saying.
     
    #29     May 27, 2007
  10. ajna

    ajna

    The main benefit of a high win/loss method is that you can somewhat withstand periods where your win rate drops. Drawdowns can be larger, but a well researched method should hold up long term with minor adjustments periodically.

    For those traders using a high win rate method, how hardy are these methods to changes in market direction and volatility? And how often do you need to "fine tune" your method as markets change?

    st
     
    #30     May 27, 2007