What tools are missing if I start a hedge fund today ?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by ramaTrade, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. sjfan

    sjfan

    That's your own funding cost; It's not quoted to you. BUT: since you are always borrowing at a rate that's above the yield curve (sometimes by a whole lot), it's basically impossible for you to do an arb (since you can never borrow at the yield curve rate, since that's what the government borrows at; the bank themselves borrow at a higher rate)

     
    #31     Nov 13, 2009
  2. I guess I'm just saying that even if you're just offering an arbitrage free price, you still get something for making the transaction, and being the broker in that deal is pretty sweet, even though I have no idea what they're paid to do those transactions.

    To the OP, sorry, but if you really were looking for techniques, this would have been one avenue I would have explored. If you have no idea what we're talking about a little more education is in order.
     
    #32     Nov 13, 2009
  3. sjfan

    sjfan

    Because it's damn expensive for me to go call up a 1000 possible counterparty to do this transaction; they are paid to match up buyers with sellers and allow me (as either) to be able to transact efficiently. As far as I'm concerned, that's a good reason for their piece.

    And don't be such a tool and presume the OP may not understand. That's just rude (as is this thread hijack; this is my last post on this matter)

     
    #33     Nov 13, 2009
  4. God damn it, anyway, that's definitely not covered in the curriculum....so much for that, but I guess I don't see why it's not possible to do....I was going to say special deals, but it doesn't make sense now that I think about where we'd be on the yield curve for an individual to borrow or loan, but you'd still be an institution presumably with way more than an individual's money.
     
    #34     Nov 13, 2009
  5. Thanks again, the only reason I'd think the OP might not know is simply because he might not have gone through the CFA curriculum, which even in all my years as an undergrad I still never saw till entering the curriculum.

    I don't know what "tool" means. It's thrown around here a lot.
     
    #35     Nov 13, 2009
  6. Pretty laughable to believe you're shelling out for a Bloomy and you don’t know all the answers to the questions you posted. Hint, they’re all on the terminal if you know where to look!

    The legal costs to set up a true hedge fund are pretty substantial. Then again since you don’t need to be a hedge fund and you would just be a sol prop you don’t need all of that legal work, especially self funded. Then again you would be limited to listed products and retail margins since you don’t have the credit facilities to deal in the OTC markets.
     
    #36     Nov 13, 2009

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    #37     Nov 14, 2009
  8. mike007

    mike007

    Why is this in the options forum? I would guess if you are trying to do an options hf then you are missing some sort of options analysis tool. OptionVue or something like that. I dont know the types of option tools that bloomberg has.
     
    #38     Nov 14, 2009
  9. the1

    the1

  10. :D
     
    #40     Nov 14, 2009