What to know about trading stocks

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by longandshort, Jun 28, 2023.

  1. Different securities but the approach is the same. Decompose the drivers of returns, add in your views, repackage, and see the delta to the market price.
     
    #11     Jun 28, 2023
  2. Multivariate > univariate!
     
    #12     Jun 28, 2023
  3. %%
    BIG retail with the exception of WMT tends not to be a top trending sector.
    IBD has some excellant reads on the subject; i dont use IBD books + data for single stocks ;
    i study sectors performance + benchmarks .............................
    But WMT + many WMT millionaires again proves / hard to predict;:D:D
    not a line chart + not a prediction. LOL
     
    #13     Jun 29, 2023
  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    What about this?

    "Starboard pegged the value of Macy's real estate holdings at $20 billion in 2020. There was even speculation that Macy's would change its structure into a REIT, but management decided against it. In 2022, Cowen assessed the Macy's real estate holdings to be worth between $6 billion to $8 billion alone."

    Anyway how real stonk traders are there here that trade beyond current day ... or two?
     
    #14     Jun 29, 2023
  5. Let me guess you think starboard and cowen assessed those values using a chart :thumbsup:
     
    #15     Jun 29, 2023
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    No actually I think they pulled it outta their azzes, like much of Wall Street sell side anal-ists
     
    #16     Jun 29, 2023
  7. I have found the two attached papers to be very useful. In the regression context this means that you are likely to be much more successful when p >> n (when there are many more columns in your design matrix than rows). Your worst out of sample results are likely to be where p is close to n. This is particularly important in time-varying parameter/coeff regression, where the number of effective observations is small (in each individual lookback kernel. this goes for state-space estimates as well as explicit half-kernel coeff estimates), and the pool of potential predictor variables is large. Essentially Kelly et al show that Fisher's Infinitesimal Models applies to market forecasting as well as to genetics (Omnigenics, "benign overfit"). Two of the authors are associated with AQR, and Kelly has an impressive sounding title there (as well as his Yale association).

    Moving from overdetermined to underdetermined regression will likely [as much as] double out-of-sample R^2. This may be the single easiest thing an ET basement quant can do to improve his forecast metrics.

    From Virtue of Complexity in Return Prediction:

    "We prove that, in the high-complexity regime (P >> N), expected out-of-sample forecast accuracy and portfolio performance are strictly increasing in model complexity. The analyst should always use the largest approximating model that he can compute. Applying optimal shrinkage to large P models enhances performance further (indeed, we derive the choice of shrinkage that maximizes expected out-of-sample model performance). In other words, when the true data- generating process (DGP) is unknown, the approximation gains achieved through model complexity dominate the statistical costs of heavy parameterization."

    Also:
    footnote 5:
    "Relatedly, Rapach et al (2010) show that MSE decomposes into a scale-free (correlation) component and a scale-dependent component. It is the scale- free component that is important for trading strategy performance."

    Note: optimal shrinkage parameter referenced in the quote (e.g. ridge lambda) above will often be slightly negative in the p >> n regime.
     
    #17     Jun 29, 2023
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  8. DeMurph

    DeMurph

    So on the other hand we can say that analysis is different but how to react to them is the same right?
     
    #18     Jul 1, 2023
  9. KGTrader4

    KGTrader4

    You guys all make things so much more complicated than it has to be.
     
    #19     Jul 1, 2023
  10. Depends on what your source of alpha or edge is. Some strategies are tied to an arbitrage which is super systematic. Other strategies are discretionary, which is very bayesian. The type of analysis and reaction sequence is largely dependent upon the type of strategy.
     
    #20     Jul 1, 2023