What to do with the "99ers"? UI benefits will be extended again!!!

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. S2007S


    Millions of 99ers are not collecting any benefits and soon millions more on fourth and final tiers will lose their benefits in the months to come. Many are looking at the unemployed as an investment, that the continued unemployment benefits they receive the more they will spend, they know consumers are fools and even those on unemployment benefits even more foolish which means the more billions they pour into the the unemployed the better return on GDP and economic growth. As soon as millions more start losing benefits they will quickly decide to call all 99ers the continuous unemployed.

    What people are worried about is not the extension but the amount of money they can invest in the unemployed

    Congress' Next Big Issue: How to Handle Jobless '99ers'
    CNBC.com | November 02, 2010 | 02:23 PM EDT

    Before the new Congress takes over in January, lame-duck legislators will have a big issue on their plate: What to do with those whose emergency unemployment benefits run out at the end of the November.

    Congress ran into the same problem during the summer, and it resulted in hundreds of thousands without jobs to go weeks not receiving benefits. Those affected have come to be known as "99ers," meaning they have exhausted the government's extensions of up to 99 weeks of compensation.

    Their numbers rose to record levels in September as a total percentage of the unemployed. More than one in 10 jobless Americans—1.47 million, or 10.4 percent of the total—have been out of work for more than 99 weeks, with a few million more on the fourth and final tier of benefits.

    They are among the individuals most impacted by the economic slowdown, and without help as many as five million more could be joining their ranks soon. Though perhaps not enough to cause a double-dip recession in itself, the trend of long-term unemployment remains a burden the economy cannot shake.

    "It's going to be another factor that isn't helpful rather than a factor that sends the economy back into recession," Paul Dales, US economist at Capital Economics in Toronto, says of the impact the 99ers will have on total growth. "It will further undermine the already fragile economic recovery."

    Still, the continued flow of long-term jobless through the government's long arm of assistance is a vexing problem for politicians and policy makers.

    The government will provide the latest snapshot of the labor situation Friday when it releases the monthly nonfarm jobs report. Nonfarm payrolls are expected to increase by 60,000 and the unemployment rate is likely to hold steady at 9.6 percent.

    But the parade of workers onto the fourth tier of the unemployment benefits system will cause congressional consternation as lawmakers debate a variety of proposed help.

    While the immediate question will be whether to extend the funding for those on their final weeks of receiving benefits, there also are two bills pending to go even beyond that point and create a fifth tier of benefits. The current system extends the traditional 26 weeks of coverage to 60 and then 99 weeks depending on individual state unemployment levels

    The Emergency Unemployment Compensation Act would add another 20 weeks of benefits for those in states with a jobless rate higher than 10 percent. The competing Americans Want to Work Act also proposes another 20 weeks, but lowers the bar for qualified states to 7.5 percent unemployment.

    Should the Republicans take over after Tuesday's elections—the new majority won't actually be seated until January—that could squelch momentum for either bill to get passed.

    "As a result of what happens today positions will just get locked up even tighter," says Ken Goldstein, economist at the Conference Board in New York. "It's very unlikely that we'll see any action. That certainly means that some of these programs are just going to run out."

    Democrats and Republicans faced down over the issue this summer, when the GOP refused to extend benefits to those in the final tier until money was designated to pay for it, following Congress' adherence to pay-as-you-go regulations.

    While the two sides ultimately reached an agreement, an accord could be harder to find in a new political climate where deficit reduction takes priority.

    Should the long-term unemployed not get an extension and become 99ers, that would knock off about 0.6 percent in gross domestic product over the next two quarters, says Zach Pandl, economist at Nomura Securities in New York.

    "There's definitely an effect of some kind," Pandl says. "Lower consumption, lower wages, lower labor-force participation rates—the process is gradual."

    Indeed, despite the government's extraordinary intervention, the trend is toward longer, not shorter, levels of unemployment.

    While the government no longer is paying the 1.4 million who have take on 99er status and moved off the compensation rolls, it has to contend with another 6.1 million who have been out of work for more than 27 weeks.

    That number constitutes 41.7 percent of the entire jobless group, meaning headaches for the current Congress and the new guard that will take over in January. Holding steady against more benefits might sound good fiscally, but it will have political and personal ramifications.

    "The experience this summer demonstrates that the effect on benefit recipients is large and immediate," Pandl says. "Whatever they do, hopefully we will not have this temporary expiration like we did last time and it will be a smooth transition to extending the program, or widening it out."
  2. Cheaper to keep paying the masses. It is preferable to having national guard on the streets and food riots.
  3. 377OHMS


    Really? You don't think 99 weeks is enough?
  4. S2007S


    Its extremely cheap to print more monopoly money for the unemployed, its worthless money any way, right???

    Go bubble ben bernanke, print them some more money so that we can get this economy moving again.
  5. S2007S


    Well at one time 26 weeks was enough, they doubled that, so no, 99 weeks isnt enough when everyone knows they will extend it another 200 or 382 weeks on top of the already 99 weeks they already got. Its worthless monopoly money they keep printing, so it really doesn't make a difference.
  6. Its not about enough is enough. But what will cost less, a riots and destruction in the cities or just printing dollars.
  7. We all deserve free money. Checks for everyone!!!
  8. I understand your point, but to claim "the money is worthless" is innacurate.. at least so far.
  9. 377OHMS


    I don't morally equivocate the two things.

    Whether or not the 99rs receive additional assistance has nothing to do with them rioting or not.

    If something is the right thing to do then it is the right thing to do.
  10. Policies that kill two birds with one stone are always their favorites. This one keeps one class of people under the government's thumb, while simultaneously stealthily passing stimulus onto various sectors of the economy.
    #10     Nov 2, 2010