What The Moonbats Don't Understand

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hapaboy, Aug 22, 2006.

  1. wait... you are the fairy tale boy.... when i watched this video i thought about you and your fairy tales. anyways fk off ... i have football to watch all day.. watch this when you get back, i am sure you will enjoy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_n5gJgQ_U&search=WTC
     
    #101     Sep 2, 2006
  2. Dude, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.

    This is such junk science it's pathetic. The whole theory relies on an 'implosion' to suck air out to create a friggib' vacuum? Get fkn real.

    Here's a question, why would a building falling on its' own or building that's demo'd fall at a different speed? They wouldn't, and highh school physics should tell you why.

    But don't take my word for it.

    /www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm
     
    #102     Sep 3, 2006
  3. #103     Sep 4, 2006
  4. 7 is 'scooped out'.

    Photos, fireman's eyewitness accounts

    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
     
    #104     Sep 4, 2006
  5. #105     Sep 4, 2006
  6. This looks real - pretty BIG fires

    Photos, video

    http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7_fire.html
     
    #106     Sep 4, 2006
  7. Firefighter qoutes about the damage and fires in 7

    "Firehouse: Did that chief give an assignment to go to building 7?

    Boyle: He gave out an assignment. I didn’t know exactly what it was, but he told the chief that we were heading down to the site.

    Firehouse: How many companies?

    Boyle: There were four engines and at least three trucks. So we’re heading east on Vesey, we couldn’t see much past Broadway. We couldn’t see Church Street. We couldn’t see what was down there. It was really smoky and dusty."

    "A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

    But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.

    So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.

    Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

    Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

    Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

    Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

    http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/mag...e/gz/boyle.html
     
    #107     Sep 4, 2006
  8. Full quote, rebuttal

    A video is shown on just about every conspiracy web site which shows a few fireman discussing what they heard and saw.


    fireman2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
    fireman1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
    fireman2: 2 blocks.
    fireman1: and we started runnin'
    fireman2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch
    fireman1: Floor by floor it started poppin' out …
    fireman2: It was as if as if they had detonated, det…
    fireman1: yea detonated yea
    fireman2: as if they had planned to take down a building,
    boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom…
    In the context of reading it off a conspiracy site this may sound like damming evidence. They are saying “detonated” and “they had planned to take down a building”. They even say “Boom” to describe the sound. But if you hear the other things they’re saying, their body language and context outside the conspiracy theory setting, something else emerges. Before or after every description is “As if”. “As if they had planned to take down a building”. “It was as if as if they had detonated”. They also use body language to show it was the sound of the floors crashing into one another.



    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom- (hand moves down)

    boom…

    This could be just as powerful evidence of pancaking as the use of explosives. But the real evidence isn’t so much examining the video as examining the actions taken, or NOT taken, by the NYC Fire Department after the event. The NYC Fire Department hasn’t rallied its members to force an investigation into the possible murder of over 300 of its members. Some sites offer an explanation of this saying there was a gag order placed on the Fire Department. The only place you will find this is on conspiracy theory sites. No mention from main stream press about the hundreds if not thousands of fireman on the scene not being allowed to talk.
     
    #108     Sep 4, 2006
  9. Lotsa first that day.

    And again, no buildings of the SAME design.

    http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm
     
    #109     Sep 4, 2006
  10. #110     Sep 4, 2006