What the hell is going on in the bond market?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by RGLD, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. ZBZB

    ZBZB

    Treasury Secretary was on CNBC just before the 4pm CDT close and said they would issue a 50 year bond. ZB declined by 3/4 point in seconds.

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    #11     Aug 28, 2019
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  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    day traders will be over joyed!
     
    #12     Aug 28, 2019
  3. By doing so the ECB basically followed the example as set by Japan's BoJ. They already had negative interest rates for a longer time, and are trying their best to avoid that the JPY gets too strong against the USD.
     
    #13     Aug 28, 2019
  4. bone

    bone

    Well, there are of course bad consequences to negative interest rates and if left to persist it will hurt an economy [especially banks and financial institutions because they still depend mightily on customer savings accounts].
     
    #14     Aug 28, 2019
  5. That is total bollocks. Neither the secret agenda nor the openly expressed interest of ECB is to devalue the euro and thus compete on trade. That has never been the mendate of the ECB and neither is it the mendate Fed. If you choose to be a conspiracy theorist then that is your prerogative yet your belief does not reflect the truth. Fact is that ECB is embarking on a QE program to pump liquidity into the market to support struggling economies. Last time I checked Europe was not on a too solid economic footing. And the main tools are lower rates and asset purchases. The facts and your opinions are not the same.

     
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    #15     Aug 29, 2019
  6. You forgot to include the coupon rate for any sovereign non bills.

     
    #16     Aug 29, 2019
  7. And your buying power increases tremendously. You conveniently forgot to mention that. Or are you personally an exporter?

     
    #17     Aug 29, 2019
  8. And yet Japan is an export powerhouse, in the top three in almost every high tech sector, cars, video consoles/games, porn,... It's a bogus argument to always blame a strong currency for struggling exports. Sometimes it's the shitty product that is at fault. Or is anyone arguing that American beef or all this GMO infested agricultural shit is desired by Japanese and Europeans?

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    #18     Aug 29, 2019
  9. I agree with you that Japan's BoJ primary objective was not to improve or support Japan's export. Its first objective is to reach an inflation level of about 2%. This made them go as far as negative interest rates and they started a buying spree of bonds and equity. Until now have they not been able to achieve that inflation target, even though they are trying for quite a number of years (10 years by now?, I lost count). By now has Europe's ECB copied some of their tactics (negative interest rates, buying of bonds), and the interest rates in the US have come down a lot since a decade ago. This makes the JPY stronger than the Japanese would like it to be, as many Japanese companies base their budgets on an exchange rate of approximately 110 JPY/USD. If the JPY gets stronger than that for a longer duration this will affect the profitability of the Japanese companies substantially.
     
    #19     Aug 29, 2019
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  10. Did you check dollar yen post 2008? Yet many Japanese companies still turned a healthy profit. I strongly believe the number one aspect of a solid and long term profitable business is a high quality, durable, and well designed product. Take a look what kind of cars Audi, Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes are pumping out year after year. The US can put up as many tariffs they want and the Euro can go down or up and yet all the above car makers will make healthy profits. On the contrary, you can save and rescue Ford and GM as many times as you want and yet they make shit products (mostly) and will struggle time and again. It's the product that is key not the exchange rate or other macro factors.

     
    #20     Aug 29, 2019