What the hell is causing this extreme constant bullish move in the Dow??!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by spanish89, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    They could, but apparently senility isn't grounds for banning.
     
    #111     Jan 26, 2013
  2. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    smurf's chosen religion/method of losing money.

    I never considered it a "problem" per se. Potentially subjective? Yes

    By definition, yes.



    I wholeheartedly agree.
    Pretty much, yes. Which imo does not contradict your prior statement which I agreed with.
     
    #112     Jan 26, 2013

  3. Why would they?

    Eventhough the guy is mental and everything is a farse, he promotes discussions and that helps the site.
     
    #113     Jan 26, 2013
  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Totally agree, these days I would call them short term traders( STT :) )
     
    #114     Jan 27, 2013
  5. I agree it doesn't contradict.

    I'm saying the reason "trend trading" doesn't work is because just because price is in a "trend" doesn't mean it's anymore likely to keep going in that direction than to reverse.

    I was making those two statements to say that even if you could manage to define a trend, it wouldn't do any good.

    Trends only exist in hindsight.

    The only way a trend is useful is if you look at a current chart and realize "hey, I got in in the correct direction and then price started trending."

    Seeing a trend and then entering doesn't guarantee price will keep going. Price does HH LL all the time. It also does LL HH all the time. As soon as Joe Schmoe trader thinks "hey, it's trending!" it's probably about to reverse, anyway. After all, most traders lose money, so most traders are doing it wrong. And what's to say that pullback isn't really the beginning of a downtrend? The other option is to enter as price is still going up (ie. not waiting for a pullback). People who do that complain that they always enter at the top.

    If only there were some way to identify when a trend was about to begin.
     
    #115     Jan 27, 2013
  6. bone

    bone

    Third best post of the year so far. LMFAO !
     
    #116     Jan 27, 2013
  7. Redneck

    Redneck

    There is - believe it.. then do the work to figure it out.., or call me a liar

    I couldn't care less either way

    RN
     
    #117     Jan 27, 2013
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    #118     Jan 27, 2013
  9. bone

    bone

    It seems to me that using one's energy in order to identify a trend before it happens is a bit like chasing the holy grail. In other words, a delusional venture IMO.

    Sorry, but market timing in that sense isn't required.
     
    #119     Jan 27, 2013
  10. Redneck

    Redneck

    So I take it, you think I’m lying

    Questions;

    For a turn to occur – shocks to the system not withstanding;

    Do the big players position themselves first – for an impending turn? (the one they are creating)

    If yes – wouldn't that leave tracks to follow / give away their plans?

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    If no – so you’re saying they are clueless and simply go along with the herd (granted some are... but there are a few who are not)

    (since I’m holding $M's in a position – think I’ll use one mkt order to exit…, and another to re-enter… or better still – I’ll re-position myself a 100 measly shares at a time)

    Come on Bone – I know you know better (or at least you should)

    RN




     
    #120     Jan 27, 2013