What strategies do you guys use?

Discussion in 'Options' started by klurby, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. opt789

    opt789

    Obviously we already know the answer to that question.
    The very few who can extract excess value would not post what they do, here or anywhere else.

    Couldn’t agree more, I would just emphasis that these people always, always over leverage and set their sites on annualized returns that no one in the history of the market has ever achieved in the long run. Additionally they almost never have the many years of trading experience necessary to understand how to handle things like the inevitable gap move, fast markets, and the deer in the headlights mentality of hoping it will come back. Hopefully their investors know enough to sue the “investment manager” when the blowup happens.
     
    #131     Jul 10, 2011
  2. joneog

    joneog

    Fair enough. That far out of the money just seems like more trouble than it's worth imo.


    +1
     
    #132     Jul 10, 2011
  3. Betapeg

    Betapeg

    Utilizing the strategy I have detailed here, what would you employ as a risk management strategy? I see the double premium mental stop as a rule of thumb which could be far surpassed as you guys said. Black swan events are a given. How would you protect yourself?
     
    #133     Jul 10, 2011
  4. There are 2 tails at all times. Bet more on the one that won't happen, and no bet on the one that will happen?.
     
    #134     Jul 10, 2011
  5. AFAIK, only two types of "protection" exist:
    a) Don't do it
    b) Have a very large amount of cash handy
     
    #135     Jul 10, 2011
  6. c) Raise a huge amount of OPM. Make the bets, collect the management fees, and have an alternate passport with alternate ID ready with airline ticket to a new life when the inevitable occurs.:p
     
    #136     Jul 10, 2011
  7. An "O'Hare Option?"
     
    #137     Jul 10, 2011
  8. sle

    sle

    I have no idea what you mean - is omega angle some measure of the skew? What is horisontal and vertical risk? First time in 15 years i hear this terminology...
     
    #138     Jul 10, 2011
  9. Dude, you are selling the protection. "hi, this is allstate, I need a quote on insurance..."

    You'll have to sell closer to the money and buy an even further wing, getting marginal premium.
     
    #139     Jul 10, 2011
  10. I'm just making things up ..... I'm trying to get atticus to fall for some troll bait, looks like he wont bite. :(
     
    #140     Jul 10, 2011