What salary would it take for you to quit this?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by midlifeguy, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. Cutten

    Cutten

    I don't think I'd be able to do a salaried job for more than a day or two, regardless of how much they offered. The closest i would be able to come would be working at an entreprenurial venture where I had some of the equity, as long as they had totally flexible hours. For whatever reason, the motivator of a high salary is more than offset by the fact of having to fit into someone else's schedule and be at their beck & call.
     
    #31     Nov 10, 2006
  2. Cutten

    Cutten

    You've forgotten the downside of being an exploited controlled peon when you work for someone else. You do the grunt work for a pittance, they are the ones who get rich. Even if you are an entrepreneur, you are still a slave to your customers. Trading is a pursuit similar to truck driving, in that it offers a lot of freedom. Your only limitations are to deliver the goods without breaking the law, how you do it is up to you.
     
    #32     Nov 10, 2006
  3. well last yr that was only on 85k but this yr that % will be a lot higher as i've netted more
     
    #33     Nov 10, 2006
  4. I always wanted to be a trader to become financially independent, I never knew I could do it as a trucker.
     
    #34     Nov 10, 2006
  5. Just my 2 cents:

    I think the question focuses too much on money. I made plenty of "money" as a director in a fortune 400 company before I just got fed up with the rat race and tossed all my experience and credentials and degrees down the commode and "dropped out".

    I am currently in an experimental stage to see if I can "make it" on my own without the help of anyone. What a wonderful feeling it is not being enslaved to or beholding to anyone and knowing one can provide for oneself.

    I think the question should be what income to stress ratio would you return to the rat race for? More money/salary implies more responsibility. There is a knee of the curve area where one can make a reasonable salary/income with minimal oversight and stress and where one does not have to give up free personal time and liberties. This is only available in certain industries and situations.

    Quality and lifestyle is everything but it is very hard if not impossible to find that in today's cut-throat, political, competitive corporate environment. God did not intend for humans to live like they do in the context of Corporations. I have seen more inhumanity to one's fellow men in the "management techniques" used today: social isolation, punished by putting on dead or no win projects, giving peers (or subordinates) control over budgets and work and not giving out charge numbers to those they "do not like". It's BAD out there in Corporate America and getting worse. I don't know a single peer who likes their job or would stay if they had similar economic options.

    So - minimize your income to stress ratio with the understanding you need a minimum level of income to offset costs/expenses (itself stressful). What good is income if the stress kills you faster than the passing of time? ON the other hand if you are working 2x as hard in the market trying to get ahead at the end of the month and failing - its time to get out and get something else going since failure is the worst stress of them all..

    TS
     
    #35     Nov 10, 2006
  6. Hi
    I actually have 20 years experience, the past 8 as a buyside trader so saying I have only done this for 5 months is a little misleading. I have only been doing it on my own (not working for someone) for 5 months. I am making less but WAY HAPPIER. I was miserable in the corporate world..now the job offer I have is doing high stress trading again with non-stop phones from clients and advisors and no time to even use the bathroom. Potential is $100k a year. Is it worth it? I really don't know. My stress level in my last job burned me out and it wasn't the work, it was the idiotic micromanaging idiots that bossed everyone around.


     
    #36     Nov 10, 2006
  7. I have never met a buyside trader that makes 100K? more like 175k-250k all in as an execution trader...much more if you have your own book... Are you sure you are not middle office? 100k is not a lot of money and to be honest... missing out on a 100k salary is not a big deal... thats just me...if I wer ein your shoes I would take the risk of trading.... especially since you say you have been in the markets for 20 years...
     
    #37     Nov 10, 2006
  8. rosy2

    rosy2

    one of my old employers pay entry level people around 80k/year not including bonus. the job you describe sounds like a clerk. what would you gain out of it? if its dealing with OTC markets (non exchange traded securities) it might be ok for a bit. Also, if you make less than 100k/yr trading then maybe its not for you.
     
    #38     Nov 11, 2006
  9. sounds like you've answered your own question. stay a trader; don't return to corporate america. why would you even consider it?

    i know it's tempting and flattering that they want you, but it sounds like it would be a mistake.
     
    #39     Nov 11, 2006
  10. Where?? New York? It isn't here in San Diego.


     
    #40     Nov 12, 2006