What Russia said... and the Western lie press suppresses

Discussion in 'Politics' started by earth_imperator, Oct 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You may want to include Russia's autocratic imposition of communism on their satellite countries and their use of Russian troops and KGB operatives to suppress any dissent. Take a look at Hungary in 1956 or Czechoslovakia in 1968 as examples.

    This is on top of a long history of Russia back to centuries of using brutal suppression to subject people. Take a look at Russian imperialism since 1500 -- it is well documented.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_imperialism#Russian_colonial_expansion
     
    #11     Oct 18, 2022
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    Putin complaining about colonization while he is in the middle of invading a sovereign country is rich. I wonder how the independent Stan and Baltic states feel about the hegemony?

    And if you don’t like the dollar use another currency just don’t complain when you can’t get what you need from the American market or through its trade networks.
     
    #12     Oct 18, 2022
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  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    lol uwutm8? Russian imperialism was a thing before Marx was a twinkle in his father's eye. The Soviets just doubled down on stupid

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_imperialism#Russian_colonial_expansion
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_imperialism#Soviet_expansionism

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    #13     Oct 18, 2022
  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    That's just lazy whataboutism, we are talking of the current times aka more civilized times relatively.
     
    #14     Oct 18, 2022
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    The funny thing is, I actually do read history. I do it during the time I have free because I'm not on here posting all day.
     
    #15     Oct 18, 2022
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  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    #16     Oct 18, 2022
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    What are you currently reading?

    I have just started reading Wilmington's Lie (WINNER OF THE 2021 PULITZER PRIZE): The Murderous Coup of 1898 and the Rise of White Supremacy on my Kindle.

    I tend to read a lot of history and historical fiction.
     
    #17     Oct 18, 2022
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Anyway, this Ukraine thing has made the two of you a couple of flag thumpers. I have never been that, I have been a consistent critic of US foreign policy and meddling for years now. There's more to this story than "US good Russia bad Putin anti-christ".
     
    #18     Oct 18, 2022
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  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    At the moment I'm reading climate change and ecological overshoot. The only problem worth talking about in this century imo. Which makes me question why I got involved in the Russo-Ukraine war topic at all, it's just passengers kicking the ice around on the Titanic's deck.
     
    #19     Oct 18, 2022
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  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    so you've been a consistent flag waver of "America bad". How is that any different?

    That's because I'm specifically calling out "narrowing down" time frames to fit your "not as imperialist" argument as BS. Every empire ever had periods of no empire building. Plus Soviet expansionism was by far worse policy than mercantile expansionism/globalization, something that gets labeled "imperialism" all the time.
     
    #20     Oct 18, 2022