What really happened with BATS execution?

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by Quickless, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. #22     Apr 1, 2012
  2. ISO orders can be devastating without circuit-breaker logic.
    Well, that sums it up.
     
    #23     Apr 1, 2012
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    Any reason other than algo-error or attempted sabotage for someone to deploy ISO's in such an illiquid market?

    If algo-error, then the timing was phenomenally bad for BATS.
     
    #24     Apr 1, 2012
  4. BATS Market Structure and plan for the IPO was inherently flawed.

    If you consider most NYSE Brokers with seats wanted to see it fail, and probably so did NASDAQ Market Makers wanting to get there's, too, it's no wonder it would go to a half cent if their plan after the IPO was to give all of their balance sheet away that had just been raised.

    Not only constant selling, but imbalances by Market Structure, the impetus was motivated by abusive short selling, and the fact that BATS publicly announced that the funds of the IPO in their entirety were going to be given away as a one time dividend to older shareholders.

    This would grab anybody's attention, because their stock exchange had not been properly tested, but more importantly it was a target by much bigger players that would love to have seen this exchange fail.

    Faulty wiring, and a flawed plan of what to do post-ipo lead to this debacle, and I'm personally undettered by the outcomes because I know how to write market structure so that things like this do not happen...at least, not so often that it happens the first day.
     
    #25     Apr 3, 2012
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    Couldn't regulators investigate the origination of the ISO sell orders and identify who engineered this attack?
     
    #26     Apr 3, 2012
  6. Any large order can move price without circuit-breaker logic.

    It all depends on the liquidity on the other side.
     
    #27     Apr 3, 2012
  7. Someone wanted to sell first, sell at any price, and didn’t care which market.
     
    #28     Apr 3, 2012
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    I would add: it appears from the Nanex report that they wanted to sell at any price in all markets.

    The use of the ISO would ensure that all liquidity would be absorbed at any price. Therefore the price would be driven to 0.

    Is this correct? Thanks in advance.
     
    #29     Apr 3, 2012
  9. If the market sell order was bigger than all the buy limit orders in all books, then yes.

    This is not rocket science.

    Edit: Strictly speaking, the last trade would be at whatever the limit price of the last bid consumed was. So not actually 0.
     
    #30     Apr 3, 2012