What really happened ....11 september

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NickBarings, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. what u mean nobody knows him? the name is there for u to see and research if u dont believe. and why u think nobody has spoken yet? look what's apparently happening to this guy, hes receiving threatening calls...what u think could happen to other military personell speaking out while still working for norad or centcon? i dont know if the story is true or false but it certainly doesnt make much sense to make ll this shit up and quote a man with the dear consequences u could face. a bit of research could clear the matter up, beginning with the name of the mole.
     
    #251     Dec 14, 2006
  2. man

    man

    i meant the guy who said they were told to keep the planes down.

    i see where you are coming from. yes, it is devastating for one's
    reputation, troublesome, calls and so forth. but excuse me, we
    are talking about at least a dozen people at NORAD who were
    not part of the conspiracy and found out about it minutes after
    it happened. why would such lieutenant, who must have been
    part of the plan or at least be informed early on, say something
    like this? and why did non of these soldiers come up with
    something? given the huge trauma of the country, they did not
    bring this up because they feared their boss, or some phone
    calls? not to speak of their oath on the constitution which they
    would break by not bringing this up.

    do not get me wrong here. i think it is important to use the same
    level of scepticism for the conspiracy material as one uses for
    the official stuff. i don't by one or the other at face value.

    and classified material of this kind lying on a table and the other
    guy takes it and reads it quite in detail ... hey, this is military,
    drilled people. that is at least a little unusual, right?
     
    #252     Dec 14, 2006
  3. man

    man

    and you must not forget that military as such is not so pro-bush.
    there MUST be a stream of information or a net of people who
    know about these things, if a dozen people at NORAD knew it
    on 911 morning. and at least in midst of the iraq desaster there
    MUST be somebody coming up with evidence of this kind. i mean
    we are talking about mass murder on homeland by the government
    here! this looks only great in detail, but not out of some distance.
    and do not forget that alex jones' job description is airing such
    information. if we use these arguments for the other side, we
    must apply them here as well.
     
    #253     Dec 14, 2006
  4. The Aliens did it...:eek:
     
    #254     Dec 14, 2006
  5. nobody in his right mind still holding a job in the military would open his mouth; look what happpened to the many who spoke out against the goverment..they all got either fired, discharged or threatened. if i had a familiy to feed i wouldnt talk and i would also fear for my own life, regardless.

    still, there are many ex-cia and ex mi5 officers that have alreading spoken out...their testimonies are all over the net. much of what they say is a matter of opinion but it raises a lot of questions due to the nature of the job they were holding, the experience, the insight into gov working and above all the credibility they inspire.
     
    #255     Dec 14, 2006
  6. man

    man

    i see your points. i don't know. essentially you are saying that
    all higher ranks in US military are involved in this. if anybody
    was not, (s)he would setup an investigation. this conspiracy
    btw would include colin powell.

    i am not a military person at all, but i would think that courage
    is part of the job. you can't make high ranks easily shut up. that
    might seem to be possible if you look from outside, but it is really
    not easy i would think.

    i remain sceptic.
     
    #256     Dec 14, 2006
  7. colin has resigned and if u recall the reasons he gave were that he didn't go along with the ideology driven strategies of the administration. maybe that has something to do with him standing down, dont u think. i cant see powell speaking out since he was part of the whole affair even tho reluctantly, but he was still complicit nevertheless. i cant say for sure what happened that day but am willing to speculate chances are the government had much to do with it and therefore all the highest ranking military and civilian men were also involved and have zip motive to talk about it...imo it is not a big deal and dont come to me as as a surprise or a one of a kind event. politics are dirty and always been conducted with zero scruples, the op northwood decalssified doc proves these kinda acts are not only possible but also likely to take place.
     
    #257     Dec 14, 2006
  8. man

    man

    the surprise is the homogenous effort of at least two dozen
    higher ranks for a criminal project. but i respect your points
    and way of argument.
     
    #258     Dec 14, 2006
  9. that's the problem imo....u and many others cannot see it other than a criminal project but i bet in the perpetuators own minds it was everything but criminal...it was a sort of startegy were the means justified the acts. 3000 deaths for a brighter future for america, maybe they thought many more lives would have been saved and countless deaths pervented+ the economical benefits, and so on and on...
     
    #259     Dec 14, 2006
  10. Either did the congressional members who have taken this persons testimony in several hearings.....the person of the story btw has an impeccable military record and has had several other testify to the same information.....but don't expect any congressman to run out and push for a true reinvestigation of 9/11 (they do not have the courage to).
     
    #260     Dec 14, 2006