What really happened ....11 september

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NickBarings, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. It was the Intelligent Design...

    Something is very wrong with this culture. We have people believing the following all at the same time,
    1. Government is incompetent
    2. Government is evil
    3. Government is incredibly clever
    4. Government designed and executed most of major disasters
    5. Government can keep a secret
    6. Supernatural abilities of some people
    7. Time travel
    8. Perpetual machines
    9. UFO
    10. Government is working with aliens
    11. God gives a damn about the earth
    12. Santa Claus
    They don't think that some of these beliefs are mutually contradictory.
     
    #141     Dec 9, 2006
  2. Sam321

    Sam321

    Blame your own government before you blame your enemy. Makes a lot of sense. Sheesh. If you dolts ever had the chance to be taught how to interpret the empirical world I would have some hope for you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
     
    #142     Dec 9, 2006
  3. Some of it remained standing for the same reason the Pentagon did not collapse when Flight 77 hit it.

    Steel-reinforced concrete was used extensively in both buildings, the wtc buildings did not.

    WTC 7 had a large number of perimeter support columns destroyed. The buildings were not designed for that.



    The most noticeable change in the modern high-rise construction is a trend to using more steel and shaping lightweight steel into tubes, curves, and angles to increase its load bearing capability. The WTC has tubular steel bearing walls, fluted corrugated steel flooring and bent bar steel truss floor supports. To a modern high rise building designer steel framing is economical and concrete is a costly material.

    Years ago before the computer, builders were not sure of a structural elements load bearing capability, so they over built by using a so called “safety factor”. This built in safety factor could result in a structure with twice the required load bearing strength. Because of computer calculation this no longer occurs. The older buildings use to have built in a so called “safety factor” of two-to-one. Not so today, if the building code requires a load bearing factor of 40 pounds per square foot that is exactly what you get. There is no margin for error.
    http://vincentdunn.com/wtc.html


    Vulnerabilities in the design of New York's World Trade Center (WTC) are likely to have contributed to the collapse of its two main towers and adjacent buildings, according to Ronald O. Hamburger, a structural engineer currently investigating the Sept. 11 disaster.

    "I believe that the hijackers flew the aircraft into the lowest part of the buildings they had access to," Hamburger commented. "If there had been no nearby structures, they would have hit the towers lower."

    One member of the audience asked Hamburger if he believed that the pilots intentionally banked the planes at an angle to take out as many floors as possible.

    "Yes," he replied.

    According to Hamburger's preliminary analysis, the impact of the jetliners shattered and fractured two-thirds of the support columns on one face of each tower, causing the partial collapse of several floors. Debris penetrated each building's core and may have damaged the core columns located in the center of the 110-story structures.
    http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2001/december5/wtc-125.html
     
    #143     Dec 9, 2006
  4. Our government sucks but we are so proud of our system of government that we want to export it to countries like Iraq.
     
    #144     Dec 9, 2006


  5. there is zero proof for the wtc7 damage. they say they have photos but they don't release them.. they shipped the steel off to china immediately. i wonder why. as far as the twin towers go.. they were indeed hit by planes. but what is odd is how the pancake theory doesn't stand up to logic and many of its early proponents have abandoned that fantasy.

    concrete floors falling on each other can not compete with free fall speeds. also this fantasy theory doesn't account for the core steel beams being sliced like butter. it also doesnt account for molten steel as late as december.
     
    #145     Dec 9, 2006


  6. WT7 was brought down the sme way the twin towers were. Thermite on the steel core followed by controlled demolition of the weakened structure.

    Bushs younger brother controlled the Security company ( financed by Omanis and Kuwaitis ) that performed "test evacuations" ( ie planted the explosives ) the week before demolitions.

    One thing that baffles me, how is it possible that so many foot soldiers were under mind control? Given the sudden proliferation of Israeli owned "moving companies" around that time, I suspect most of them were mossad. But still, with these numbers there has to be a leak somewhere. Even the infamous MK Ultra Jim Jones experiment had people whose memories leaked, which led to the termination of the whole experiment. Could it be the foot soldiers are programmed with similar self-termination programming? since they're mossad and now self terminating outside america, no one in america will be able to connect the dots.
     
    #146     Dec 9, 2006
  7. Cesko

    Cesko

    You belong to mental institution pal.
     
    #147     Dec 10, 2006


  8. Keep on trading your paper account bitch. Make sure you keep your day job, we love sheeple like you. :D

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=israeli+moving+company+++911&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm

    The presence in the United States of a number of young Israelis, most of whom had specialized military and intelligence backgrounds, in the months prior to 911 is a subject that has received inadequate attention from the major U.S. media and government investigators. The activities of the Israelis fell into two main areas: the casing of the offices and homes of Federal law enforcement officials, U.S. military bases, and other sensitive sites by Israeli “art students” during 2000 and 2001 and the unusual activities of Israeli “movers” around sensitive areas during and after 911. These incidents occurred in tandem with the suspiscious activities of other former Israeli military and intelligence officials in neighboring countries, including Canada and Mexico, after 911. In addition, a number of Israeli intelligence agents were apprehended abroad for passport violations and other illegal activities.
     
    #148     Dec 10, 2006
  9. The halfwits and retarded RepubliKKKlans keep on using the same lame goto arguments....."if so many people know, so why doesn't someone do something about this?"


    well you idiot halfwits, simply because putting food on the table and a roof above ones head is a better motivation than running into a brick wall of satanist leaders.

    .........According to FBI sources, Urban Moving Systems and the activities of its employees on 911 did not sit too well with one member of the FBI’s New York Joint Terrorism Task Force, Special Agent Michael Dick. He pursued the Israeli angle but soon found himself transferred to Karachi, Pakistan to help rescue Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl who had been kidnapped by Al Qaeda functionaries. There was one hitch. The FBI was already aware that Pearl had been brutally murdered by his captors.........

    ................Subsequently, Information Spectrum, Inc. (ISI) of Cherry Hill, New Jersey, a subsidiary of the Fairfax, Virginia-based defense contractor, Anteon, took over the operation of the Jersey City police computer system that handled all incoming emergency phone calls on September 11. The system had been maintained by Larimore Associates, a company that specializes in archiving police emergency calls. However, Larimore’s contract was abruptly canceled by Jersey City authorities and awarded to Information Spectrum after the sudden death from a heart attack of Jersey City’s first African-American mayor, Democrat, Glenn D. Cunningham, himself a former Jersey City police officer. According to Jersey City Police officials, after the emergency call system was changed from a Wang to a Windows environment, 8000 emergency 911 system calls registered on September 11 were scrubbed from the archives. In fact, archives dating back to 1989, including those dealing with the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, were similarly affected. Information Spectrum’s running of the computer system resulted in a number of server crashes. When Larimore volunteered to help recover the lost data, there was no response from the police department.[8] Some Jersey City police sources speculated the change from Larimore to ISI/Anteon was prompted by orders from Trenton and the administration of Governor James McGreevey. They termed the changeover as “political.” Governor McGreevey resigned in 2004 after it was discovered he had an alleged gay relationship with his chief of Homeland Security, Golan Cipel. An Israeli citizen, Cipel, a former diplomat assigned to Israel’s Consulate General in New York City, was thought by many intelligence experts to be a junior Mossad case officer who lured McGreevey into a “honey trap.”..............

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm#_ftn8
     
    #149     Dec 10, 2006
  10. Cesko

    Cesko


    Keep on trading your paper account bitch. Make sure you keep your day job, we love sheeple like you.


    Will do.LOL.LOL.
     
    #150     Dec 10, 2006