What makes Successful Traders?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Jamie J., Jun 1, 2016.

  1. lovethetrade

    lovethetrade Guest

    A trading system/method that you follow religiously.
     
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    #101     Aug 22, 2016
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  2. Successful trading in a nutshell. Here it goes:

    1. Learn and develop skill (method/sizing/repetition)
    2. Accept randomness
    3. Accept and respect risk

    Good luck with #1. All these psychology coaches on ET crack me up. It's like the blind leading the blind.
     
    #102     Aug 22, 2016
  3. profitlocker:
    1) why do you think people repeat the same mistakes over and over again in trading?
    2) why people have difficulties accepting randomness?
    3 why people have difficulties accepting and respecting risk?
    4) why people have difficulties developing and learning skill ?

    Do not spit on "psychology" ( I would say spirituality as it covers more than spcyhology) : it is actually the only thing that will allow a trader to make huge progress.
     
    #103     Aug 23, 2016
  4. 1) NO EDGE
    2) NO EDGE
    3) NO EDGE
    4) THE WORLD NEEDS DITCH DIGGERS TOO
     
    #104     Aug 23, 2016
  5. Let me give you an example.
    One trader's statements : 80% win rate. Risk reward on average 3:1.
    Now, you look closely, position sizes vary from 1 to 200 times.

    What would you do to get the trader to stick to the same position sizing?
    Edge? psychology?
     
    #105     Aug 23, 2016
  6. lovethetrade

    lovethetrade Guest

    Frustration, impatience, propensity for impulsive decision-making, lack of concentration and focus, lack of conviction regarding their method, they don't know what to look for, randomness, a tendency to overcomplicate things.

    They try to predict rather than make decisions based on what the market is signalling it will do, they don't know what to look for.

    because they're really gamblers not traders, they're not prudent and in it for the long haul, lack of experience.

    This specific skill takes years to learn and is one of the most difficult so no surprise people have difficulty.

    Furthermore, the market conditions are constantly changing so all the mistakes made and learned in the prior day are not necessarily applicable the following day.
     
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    #106     Aug 23, 2016
  7. %%
    Luck is a small sample; do more, good post
     
    #107     Aug 24, 2016
  8. Thank you for expanding a bit further
    1) NO EDGE
    2) NO EDGE
    3) NO EDGE
    4) THE WORLD NEEDS DITCH DIGGERS TOO

    with

    May I ask: what motivated you to expand?
     
    #108     Aug 25, 2016
  9. Handle123

    Handle123

    Being able to Accept, knowing that you don't have to be the smartest one to play game well, being able to understand that the area that is the most boring is the area you have to spend the most time=Money Management. It is exciting to develop signals to enter, but MM is crucial before the possible trade, during entry, after entry and when to get out. More time you spend on MM, your idea of perfect entry becomes less important unless you are Scalping.
     
    #109     Aug 25, 2016
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  10. Humpy

    Humpy

    I think most of your jokes are really good, so thanks for that.
    The quote above caught my eye as typically US and non European. We like our heroes robbing the rich to give to the poor i.e. Robin Hood. Capitalists seem to have turned that ethic on its head ?
     
    #110     Aug 25, 2016