what i've learned + ceasefire

Discussion in 'Trading' started by traderkay, Dec 20, 2002.

  1. Ladies and gentleman. I am happy to report that Traderkay has found new employment outside of the trading world. We actually went to visit him at his new job to ask him how he felt about working for the corporate world.

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    #31     Dec 22, 2002

  2. great post, kymar.

    all the best,

    #32     Dec 22, 2002
  3. nitro



    nitro :D
    #33     Dec 22, 2002
  4. nkhoi

    nkhoi Moderator

    does it work in choppy period
    #34     Dec 22, 2002
  5. Good idea for a Strategy Trading forum thread. Thanks nkhoi!

    #35     Dec 22, 2002
  6. dbphoenix


    You said it youself, Cathy: "However there is some subtle judgement going on inside me for day trading. Like judging angles, time of day, market news, speed of ticks, hesitations, candlestick reversals, jumping into longer time frames from shorter ones. Watching the tape for sudden spurts in prices is Bob's job. My biggest problem is jumping out too quickly. I am trying to remedy that by using a 13 min chart after the 1 minute trigger goes off."

    Every "simple" strategy I've heard of over the years starts out with something along the lines of "go long when this crosses that". And it all sounds great. Until whoever tries it out. Then all sorts of questions arise. And the tweaking begins.

    Not that there's anything wrong with tweaking. Or customization.

    But by your own admission, you don't just enter at the cross and exit at the next cross. Anyone who says they do isn't being honest with himself.

    This is not to say that some strategies aren't simpler than others. But most "simple" systems aren't nearly as simple as they claim to be.

    #36     Dec 22, 2002
  7. no; systems like this will bleed you slowly in choppy markets. you can tweak them all you like, but tweaking will not sub for experience.

    just my .02
    #37     Dec 22, 2002
  8. bobcathy1

    bobcathy1 Guest

    I find when markets are choppy, the best thing to do is go into longer time periods. Or choose another ETF to trade with.

    I have been doing daily trades with QQQ on the cross alone. The trick is waiting out the price crosses and waiting for confirmed MA crosses. Works just fine alone for me. Some of the trades last for weeks.

    The problem most people have with crosses is that they look in such a small time frame and do not take into account the larger frames as a backdrop.

    I know I seem to be one of the few that likes to work this way. That is ok with me. We all have our favorites.

    I also fade gaps. Watch for domes and cups. Reversals. Head and shoulders and the like. Then go with the crosses as triggers.
    Works best for me on NQ and ES because of all the overnight data.

    This is my last explanation.
    #38     Dec 23, 2002
  9. Move to Chicago.

    A thing in Chicago prop.(actually a trading) firms are:

    1. Don't put money upfront.

    2. Don't sign contracts that are more than 1 year.

    3. A lot of firms give out draws.

    4. Don't trade for a company that has a required trading volume.

    5. Considering the above, you should be getting 20-30% of the profits / month. 40+% / after year end.

    6. Goto a trading firm, not those churn prop. vendors. If you don't mind all the cold/windy weather and have no financial or personal obligations, move!
    #39     Dec 23, 2002