What is your strategy?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by kut2k2, Mar 28, 2014.

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  1. Maybe (k*E) does not exactly correspond to LN(bankroll), which is the rate of geometric growth.
     
    #211     Apr 13, 2014
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    You didn't post your result for Green = 0. What is it?

    And the rate of geometric growth is

    ((1+35F-S-G)^(3/37))*((1-F+35S-G)^(4/37))*((1-F-S+35G)^(1/37))*((1-F-S-G)^(29/37)).
     
    #212     Apr 13, 2014
  3. I don't know what the above equation is. We are looking to maximize the rate of growth g, which is the log of the terminal bankroll so I believe my version (well, SplawnDarts' version) is correct:

    Code:
    F(R16,R14,Red,Green) = (4/37) * log1p(35 * R16 - Green - R14 + Red)
    		     + (3/37) * log1p(-R16 + 35 * R14 - Green + Red)
                         + (16/37) * log1p(-R16 - R14 - Green + Red)
                         + (13/37) * log1p(-R16 - R14 - Green - Red)
                         + (1/37) * log1p(-R16 - R14 + 35 * Green - Red)
    
     
    #213     Apr 13, 2014
  4. I am not surprised that the green could be part of the solution, but I am surprised that the red is not, which would indicate that its marginal effect is zero to negative. Did anyone give an intuitive explanation why that is the case?
     
    #214     Apr 13, 2014
  5. Red is part of the solution, too. It's just that we are experimenting with various rules, such as excluding bet on red altogether.
     
    #215     Apr 13, 2014

  6. You are right in that there is nothing special about Green-0. A bet on Green-0 is just as good as a bet on any other number, as long as it's not R16, R14, or Red.
     
    #216     Apr 13, 2014
  7. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    The expression I posted is the actual rate of geometric growth. If you take the log of that expression you get Splawndarts' formula.

    The whole reason for dealing with logs is solution facilitation. Logs turn a product to be maximized into a sum to be maximized, because the bankroll rate of growth becomes a maximum at the same fractions its logarithm becomes a maximum.
     
    #217     Apr 13, 2014
  8. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Mea culpa. Your results are correct.

    I managed to finally get accurate findings myself.

    To summarize:

    Betting on R-14 alone:

    k14 == 5.483%
    k*E14 == 0.10520714

    Betting on R-16 alone:

    k16 == 8.263%
    k*E16 == 0.23894396

    Betting on Green alone:

    k0 == 0% because k<0 is not allowed.
    k*E0 == 0.

    Betting on both R-14 and R-16:

    F1 == 5.723% > k14
    S1 == 8.426% > k16
    k*E1 == 0.3535 > k*E14 + k*E16

    Betting on all three {R-14, R-16, G-0}:

    F2 == 5.733% > F1
    S2 == 8.436% > S1
    G == 0.328% > k0
    k*E2 == 0.3539 > k*E1


    I find this synergy from combining bets fascinating. Anybody else?
     
    #218     Apr 14, 2014
  9. Looks like the (k*E) metric has its merit, right?
     
    #219     Apr 14, 2014
  10. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Very right. It's still the best performance metric here IMO. Just deucedly hard to calculate k for three or more bets is all.

    But what about this crazy synergy? Even adding a negative expectation bet can increase performance! :eek: :confused:
     
    #220     Apr 14, 2014
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