What is your strategy?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by kut2k2, Mar 28, 2014.

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  1. Visaria

    Visaria

    must have missed something, what do u mean by F and S?
     
    #191     Apr 11, 2014
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

  3. Visaria

    Visaria

    Well, hardly. Single bet Kelly fraction is 5.5% and 8.3% for r14 and r16, respectively.
     
    #193     Apr 11, 2014
  4. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Well yes, that confirms what I said:

    F > k14 and S > k16.

    The real question is where this synergy comes from.
     
    #194     Apr 11, 2014
  5. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    k*E for R-14 is 0.10520714.

    k*E for R-16 is 0.23894396.

    k*E for {R-14, R-16} is 0.35349969.

    Once again, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
     
    #195     Apr 11, 2014
  6. Did you figure out what the K*E is for {R16: 8.1% R14: 5.4%, Red: 10.8%}, which by consensus, appears to be the best 3-way combo?
     
    #196     Apr 11, 2014
  7. Kelly in discrete case is mean/odds, but in continuous case it is mean/(sigma^2). Why is the formula not the same even if in both cases the aim is to optimize the geometric return.
     
    #197     Apr 11, 2014
  8. The discrete Kelly is applicable in a very special case when the outcome is binary -- either the entire loss of a bet with a well-defined probability, or a payoff with another well-defined probability. That's what makes the discrete Kelly so simple. The continuous Kelly is a general case when the outcomes are spread across the probability curve. With the assumption that these outcomes are normally distributed, the mean/(sigma^2) is the analytical solution for the "optimal leverage", in the sense of maximizing the geometric growth. If you remove the assumption of the normal distribution, it's still possible to figure out what continuous Kelly is, using numerical methods, instead of the analitycal ones.
     
    #198     Apr 11, 2014
  9. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    I can't confirm what Splawndarts got but we started from the same equation so I'll just go with his results:

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3960977&postcount=122

    k*E == 0.364. I do believe that's the highest number.
     
    #199     Apr 11, 2014
  10. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    I've read elsewhere that taking a negative-expectation bet (e.g., a small bet on Green-0) combined with the proper bet sizes on the positive-expectation numbers can somehow boost the overall gain. Has anybody else heard this? More to the point, can anybody confirm this? Thanks.
     
    #200     Apr 12, 2014
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