What is your Sharpe?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by TraDaToR, Nov 14, 2016.

  1. No charge for analytics. Their fees come, as you guessed, from the percent of your profit on the allocated amount. I don't know the structure (CTA or RIA), as I have not been offered an allocation yet.
     
    #41     Nov 14, 2016
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Thank you. I'm going to contact them to learn more and see if our clients would benefit from this service.
     
    #42     Nov 14, 2016
  3. #43     Nov 14, 2016
  4. Wow, way out of my league. Do any of you offer mentoring?
     
    #44     Nov 14, 2016
  5. Here are the Sharpe ratios for reference:
    Average mutual fund: 0.37
    S&P 500 index funds: 0.42
    Warren Buffett: 0.76
     
    #45     Nov 14, 2016
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    So 1.00 Sharpe ratio is good?
     
    #46     Nov 14, 2016
  7. Yes, it is good relative to the "average" mutual and hedge fund performance. However, keep in mind that:

    1. Many traders and investors (including Buffett) do not believe that Sharpe's ratio is a good measure of performance. In particular, SR has an undesirable (and a well-documented) property of penalizing the spikes in performance, and more generally, distorting the risk-adjusted performance when the returns are highly irregular (i.e. the returns which do not fit the expected normal distribution). In literature, this property is said to violate the principle of the "second order stochastic dominance". In layman terms, it means that it violates common sense.

    2. The SR figures that I referenced above are for very long periods of time (about 30 years). The longer the time period, the more difficult it is to maintain a high SR. To put it differently, high SR figures over short periods of time (such as my trading record of 5 months) may not be meaningful.

    3. Top-performing hedge funds and some HFT funds reportedly have SR in excess of 3 or even higher.
     
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    #47     Nov 14, 2016
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  8. tlatoani

    tlatoani

    LOL

    Good point, perhaps schwaager should interview these genuises.
     
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    #48     Nov 14, 2016
  9. R1234

    R1234

    I don't think I'm a Schwager-worthy genius. I mentioned that my smoothest strategy has a sharpe of 3.5. I also trade a lot of other strategies that are around 1.0. I've also developed and traded a lot of crap over the years. I think in most cases people do not arrive at a high sharpe ratio strategy in a linear and traditionally intellectual way. It is more of an accidental discovery after hundreds of hours of testing dead end hypotheses.
     
    #49     Nov 14, 2016
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  10. Over the period?
     
    #50     Nov 14, 2016