What is your edge ?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by oilfxpro, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Are you wishing to obtain some sort of knowledge as a result of your posts here?

    What is your edge? You haven't answered that question, but you've dismissed several edges described here in a way that demonstrates complete ignorance of the meaning of "edge" in trading.

    If you're a profitable trader, what is the point of dismissing the methods of other profitable traders?

    If you're not a profitable trader and you're hoping to get information on edges, what is the point of dismissing the methods of profitable traders?
     
    #201     Aug 18, 2012
  2. No need to be defensive .The posts were merely subjective , only real traders trading in the live market would know their probabilities of success ,before they start.

    My edge will probably come from being able to read the context /charts ,be flexible to change sides quickly and trade with the side which is winning at the time , i.e the bears or the bulls .

    For a retail trader , to maintain an edge requires a combination of winning game plan , winning position sizing , good risk management , discipline ,flexible approach , higher probability entry , knowing probabilities ,ability to run profits and cut losses, higher risk reward ratios and ability to find low risk entry ,perfect execution without mistakes etc which make a trader ultimately profitable (these are not true edges but just a good trader).
     
    #202     Aug 18, 2012
  3. Do you have any examples of your peformance during one of those times you think Donna was late into the opportunity that you took during a non holiday time?

    Ohhh.... just call me Walt or Mitt, Mitt is popular these days.
     
    #203     Aug 18, 2012
  4. pokito

    pokito

    NoD,
    I think you just gave it away...
    Considering your CL stops are usually @20 ticks

    20 + 3 = 23 ticks = $230
    If,
    $230 = 2%
    ? = 100%
    -------------------
    ? = 230 X 100 /2 = $11500

    So, your account size is at least $11,500, may be more but not less....did I get that right?
    assumption - you're trading 1 car
     
    #204     Aug 18, 2012
  5. cornix

    cornix

    Frankly I tend to just scalp the immediate momentum myself, but I have seen others do as you said: take a few tries to catch the big swing with scalp-like fine-tuned entry... My experience is, it still pays off very well overall, because even if you try say 3-5 times, get 2 losses of 4 ES ticks + comm, 2 breakevens + comm, which would total roughly 11-12 ticks of costs and on the 5th time catch the move of 50 ticks, you still have a much better equity curve shape than if you risk 10 ticks from the start to get the same 50 ticks, because some losses happen there too...

    Cannot say definitely which way is better, it seems to be more correlated with particular trader's comfort zone indeed, but both ways "work" if applied consistently.
     
    #205     Aug 19, 2012
  6. cornix

    cornix

    Don't think too much. Just trail your stops and and you will get some sweet runners. :)
     
    #206     Aug 19, 2012
  7. My edge is knowing most of you folks( out there in ET land and beyond) who think you have an edge, is just wishful thinking on your part.

    The rest is all about risk control and a bit of luck.
     
    #207     Aug 19, 2012
  8. I do get some sweet runners , but the orignal system targets are to run profits when you catch the big moves.Some of these entries are done with 12 pip stops , and some trades run for 80 pips.
     
    #208     Aug 19, 2012
  9. cornix

    cornix

    Glad it works for you... There is really no "right" or "wrong" way to trade as long as you make consistent profits which are reasonable compared to the risk taken.
     
    #209     Aug 19, 2012
  10. TheBlackHand

    TheBlackHand Guest

    Dear oh dear!

    Go back and read the sequence of event again.

    There was no exact period under discussion, so I wouldnt have claimed she was late. I said the approach outlined by Oracle would result is missed opportunity. The discussion was a hypothetical scenario of waiting for a pattern against not waiting.

    I hope your market comprehension skills are better than your written word comprehension - but I doubt it.

    I have no need to post any details of my performance. I find humility rather than ego is the better friend. That lesson you can have for free, although I would have hoped you would have learnt that by your self already. I understand you did once try and trade publicly, and failed in historical fashion.

    Now, man up, make a living, and stop living out of your wifes pocket as it is alleged (frankly more believable than your sorry boasts).
     
    #210     Aug 19, 2012