What is the monthly expected return trading stocks?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Evermore2017, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. In average.
    Daytrading.
    Account size: $30K
     
  2. cvds16

    cvds16

    there is no such thing as an average expected monthly return
     
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  3. JackRab

    JackRab

    Depending on where you sit on the gambling curve and your luck ratio... realistically, anywhere between -100% and +100%... non-normal distributed.

    But average maybe -10%?
     
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  4. Simples

    Simples

    If investing theres no monthly return as you need to hold onto positions. Maybe +1-3% on average with most months being red.

    More active could be -5-20% range or even less depending on activity level.

    Of course educators wont tell you this and you wont believe it either.
     
  5. Simples

    Simples

    If investing theres no monthly return as you need to hold onto positions. Maybe -3 - +3% on average with most months being red.

    More active could be -5 - -20% range or even less depending on activity level.

    Of course educators wont tell you this and you wont believe it either.
     
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  6. JackRab

    JackRab

    Yeah, if you add the cost of a monthly 'mentor' or education... probably more like -30% hahaa
     
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  7. JackRab

    JackRab

    Investing in a 3x bear fund? That's one way to blow up...
     
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  8. JackRab

    JackRab

    Hmm.. that would mean I bear the full risk and you just risk a bit of damage to your good online nickname :)
     
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  10. birzos

    birzos

    On mid timeframe charts, like 60mn, 1-2% per month assuming you are in the top 1% who are the only ones making any profits, with account sizes in the high 5figures and low 6figures.

    Unless you have something seriously special, remembering the top 1% have the same knowledge close to or above a millionaire, with your account size the expectancy is negative.

    Simply because your capital does not produce a positive return on effort without decades of experience behind you. The average is skewed to the top, that's synthetic asset classes at work.

    <top1% loss
    =top1% break even
    top1% 1-2% per month
    top0.1% 3-5% per month
    top0.01% 7-10% per month
    top0.001% 15-20% per month

    The top 0.001% who generate those returns consistently over 15-20years starting with $1,000 capital will become a billionaire, there are currently 2,500 or so who have succeeded.

    The reason why everyone says there is no average, they're trying to sell you something outside of the top1%, they're outside of the top1% themselves, they're not smart enough to calculate the figures. Usually it's a combination of all three.
     
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    #10     Sep 12, 2017
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