What is the historical evidence that Jesus Christ lived and died?

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by OddTrader, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    That's one inaccurate quotation. See, you just twisted what I said few days ago, how would history preserve my comment if it was made 2k years ago?
     
    #101     May 2, 2017
  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    To get back to sin. Ask yourself is murder sinful ?
    I and most others would say yes.
    But imagine yourself in the 1930s. Would it have been sinful to murder Adolph Hitler and save the planet from World War 11 ? Think of the millions who need not have been killed.
    You might say he should have been jailed for his foul beliefs. He was, but a mere jail couldn't hold him.
    So fast forward to the present. Should Kim of North Korea who appears to be trying to start WW3 be assassinated ?
     
    #102     May 3, 2017
  3. My idea is not matter your decision is, just don't tell him! Especially by yourself!
     
    #103     May 3, 2017
  4. 1. Just 2 cents. If a person could peacefully stimulate/cause so many martyr followers after her/his death, the rulers would possibly take all possible actions to prove her/his non-existence by eliminating all verifiable hard evidences.

    Sending not only many strong soldiers to guard/watch her/his tomb overnight, but also place a heavy-duty over-sized stone to block the tomb, in order to prevent stealing her/his body from inside. Most likely, that was done due to a public statement saying the body inside will rise again in 3 days after death.

    Historians of the era most likely were loyal/royal employees.

    2. Another 2 cents. If we called the early followers of Jesus Jesus-ians, the rulers of the era later after out-of-control growth in size would most likely try to down size them by changing/converting them into Christians, to follow Paul's theology. According to a set of canonical holy books chosen and touched up by the rulers' employees, naturally.

    A Cosmic God (God=Nature=Universe=Reason), which is naturally in-built into everybody's heart and mind consciously and unconsciously, was the most popular conception/conviction during the era, as promoted by Stoics. Paul's Christianity theology used his Religious God theory to hijack the term God ever since.

    Making the term God an unbelievable conception, hence many people don't really like the term God anymore.

    Sad and also unfair to (Cosmic) God lovers! God is not a term exclusive to religious believers of various faiths, at all!

    Nowadays truly a mess - Worst being to do any sinister things in the name of (a religious) God! What a joke! LOL
     
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  5. In a study reported in the February 26 issue of Nature (Vol. 391, pp. 871-874), researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science have now conducted a highly controlled experiment demonstrating how a beam of electrons is affected by the act of being observed. The experiment revealed that the greater the amount of "watching," the greater the observer's influence on what actually takes place.


    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/02/980227055013.htm

    What you believe to be true only becomes stronger over time. There is no need for historical evidence of " " ...he is true to those that believe.


    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150527103110.htm

    The bizarre nature of reality as laid out by quantum theory has survived another test, with scientists performing a famous experiment and proving that reality does not exist until it is measured. Physicists have conducted John Wheeler's delayed-choice thought experiment, which involves a moving object that is given the choice to act like a particle or a wave. The group reversed Wheeler's original experiment, and used helium atoms scattered by light.
     
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