Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by OddTrader, Apr 14, 2017.
That's why it's called Faith -- ...it's only in your head, or your own personal beliefs ; For better or for worse, or for right or wrong
There are only a book shelf full of historical sources that old.
And at least one of the sources, Josephus, references Jesus multiple times.
One of the references in Josephus disputed. But, there is another one that references is virtually undisputed by any credible expert in the world.
here is a reasonable starting point for the inquiry. If you read further down at the link it discusses the evidence of the historicity of Jesus.
An overwhelming majority of New Testament scholars and Near East historians, applying the standard criteria of historical investigation, find that the historicity of Jesus is more probable than not,[nb 1][nb 2][nb 3][nb 4]although they differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the details of his life that have been described in the gospels.[nb 5][nb 6]:168–173 While scholars have criticized Jesus scholarship for religious bias and lack of methodological soundness,[nb 7] with very few exceptions such critics generally do support the historicity of Jesus and reject the Christ myth theory that Jesus never existed.[nb 8]
The historicity of Jesus is distinct from the related study of the historical Jesus, which refers to scholarly reconstructions of the life of Jesus, based primarily on critical analysis of the gospel texts. Historicity, by contrast as a subject of study different from history proper, is concerned with two different fundamental issues. Firstly, it is concerned with the systemic processes of social change, and, secondly, the social context and intentions of the authors of the sources by which we can establish the truth of historical events, separating mythic accounts from factual circumstances.
"What is the historical evidence?"
Well, the bunny with the chocolate eggs. 5 years after Jesus's death kids were already looking for those tasty little treatments. It is in the books...
Consider that the Islamic faith considers Jesus to have been a real person. They do not recognize him as God of course, just a prophet of God.
josephus was a historian, he recorded history.
that is not easter bunny material. Josephus is part of the historical record we have.
not sure how anyone can poke fun at that.
either we have a historical record or we don't.
there are 2 passages.. One is disputed by scholars... one is accepted by virtually every scholar.
An Atheist Historian Examines the Evidence for Jesus (Part 1 of 2)
An Atheist Historian Examines the Evidence for Jesus (Part 2 of 2)
Written by Tim O'Neill
Tim O'Neill is an atheist blogger who specializes in reviews of books on ancient and medieval history as well as atheism and historiography. He holds a Master of Arts in Medieval Literature from the University of Tasmania and is a subscribing member of the Australian Atheist Foundation and the Australian Skeptics. He is also the author of the History versus The Da Vinci Code website and is currently working on a book with the working title History for Atheists: How Not to Use History in Debates About Religion. He finds the fact that he irritates many theists and atheists in equal measure a sign that he's probably doing some good. Follow his blog at Armarium Magnum.
Skeptic Bart Ehrman on Whether Jesus Really Existed
Written by Brandon Vogt
Brandon Vogt is a bestselling author, blogger, and speaker. He's also the founder of StrangeNotions.com. Brandon has been featured by several media outlets including NPR, CBS, FoxNews, SiriusXM, and EWTN. He converted to Catholicism in 2008, and since then has released several books, including The Church and New Media (Our Sunday Visitor, 2011), Saints and Social Justice (Our Sunday Visitor, 2014), and RETURN (Numinous Books, 2015). He works as the Content Director for Bishop Robert Barron's Word on Fire Catholic Ministries. Brandon lives with his wife, Kathleen, and their five children in Central Florida. Follow him at BrandonVogt.com or connect through Twitter at @BrandonVogt.
Popular News Site Claims Jesus Never Existed
Written by Jon Sorensen
Jon Sorensen is the Director of Marketing for Catholic Answers, the largest lay-run apostolate of Catholic apologetics and evangelization in the United States. He earned his bachelor’s degree in 3D Animation and Visual Communications in 2004 from Platt College, Ontario. Before coming to Catholic Answers, he worked in the automotive industry producing television commercials and corporate video. He has also produced motion graphics for several feature-length films. Follow Jon through his website, JonSorenson.net.
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