What is the Best Way to Lose 20 pounds and keep it off...

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by jem, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. Gambit

    Gambit

    TRT. Full stop.
     
    #81     Dec 18, 2017
  2. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    I find that dogs are hard to keep at an ideal weight.
    I read this sage advice from an old woman who kept her large breed dogs in perfect shape.
    How did she do it?
    "When they get a little heavy I feed them a little less. When they get a little light I feed them
    a little more"

    Why complicate it?
     
    #82     Dec 18, 2017
  3. I doubt that half would be coming from body fat. A rough calculation shows that you need per day approximately 2500 kcal in energy. 4 days is thus a total of 10,000 kcal. If you don't eat at all this has to come from stored body fat. 1 pound of body fat contains approximately 3100 kcal. You would therefore need less than 3.5 pounds of body fat to serve your energy needs for these four days.
     
    #83     Dec 18, 2017
  4. Gambit

    Gambit

    So more activity, less starvation? Maybe even maintenance calories plus more working out?
     
    #84     Dec 18, 2017
  5. jem

    jem

    really thank you for the input. I am taking it all in.


    regarding the reset of my metabolism.
    I am pretty sure all diets I was considering would suffer from this issue.
    However, I am now pretty convinced that there are ways to deal with that reset.

    I plan to re commence time restricted eating or Intermittent Fasting when this fast is done.
    I also plan to do some more High Intensity Interval training.

    Regarding the choice of how I am doing it. My body told me the 3 day water fast was correct. I have no doubt that was the way to start this off... for me.

    I am not sure how long my juice fast will last. Juicing today did make me hungry.

    I note this may not be the ideal way to do it... but I needed to see a big change to keep me motivated.

    Its like the way day trading was for me when I did it. The day I started taking off half at a shorter target I became profitable. Booking profits has a big effect on me.

    If there is any truth to time restricted dieting... I will keep most of my weight loss off once I begin eating again.
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2017
    #85     Dec 18, 2017
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  6. Gambit

    Gambit

    Good luck jem. The first 3 weeks are the hardest, the plateaus are the second hardest hurdle.
     
    #86     Dec 18, 2017
  7. jem

    jem

    Switched to juice, smoothies and water 2 days ago.
    I am feeling very healthy.

    I have lost about 13 pounds now. My weight bounced up when I started drinking juice 2 days ago but I lost 2 pounds yesterday.

    My gut has shrunk considerably. My face is thinner. In 2 notches on my belt. My arms and calves may be a bit smaller but they do that when I don't lift much.


    My attitude about food has changed. (it is really odd as i am not an emotional person but I feel like I am back in control when I maybe I was not before.)
    Hopefully it will carry over to when I start eating again.






     
    #87     Dec 20, 2017
  8. jem

    jem

    so switching to juice for me was not a good idea for me. It made me hungry...
    (I did probably veer to much to the smoothy side rather than just juice.)

    Recap...
    I lost about 11- 12 pounds on the water fast. I stayed about even during a 4 day juice fast.
    When I started eating solid food I gained 4 pounds the first 5 days to a week.
    But, I have lost most of that gain by lifting hiking and intermittent fasting.


    I am now about 10 to 11 pounds lighter than when I began fasting.
    My belt is in 2 notices. I feel good.
    Plus so far I am the only person in my family to not get destroyed by the flu.

    I find myself wanting to water fast again. However, I am not sure that would be a good idea.
    At the moment the intermittent fasting is working for me really well. Working out in the morning. Eating a carne asada burrito for lunch and normal dinner, is something I could stick to for a long time... I think.

    There is something odd about the power of a carne asada burrito.

    10 years ago I lost 20 pounds in a month just eating carne asada burritos. I was eating 2 a day and working out everyday. ( my family was away so I had no distractions.) I think the key is to find as much real avocado on it as possible. these days there is far less avacado in the guacamole at most taco shops.
     
    #88     Jan 8, 2018
  9. @jem I'm glad to read that intermittent fasting is working well for you. Your schedule is such that your first food intake of the day is at lunch time, and your last food intake is at dinner time?
     
    #89     Jan 8, 2018
  10. Sprout

    Sprout


    Something that helps to curb hunger pains on a juice/water fast is to also drink well saturated psilium husks in 8oz ‘shots’.

    It’s a bulking agent that has the added benefit of re-hydrating impacted dehydrated mucoidal material on the walls of both small and large intestines.

    You’d be surprised what has remained inside the body since one began eating solid foods.

    A more thorough detox will produce the passing of what has the characteristics of ‘vulcanized rubber’ in the color range from black to white.

    Your stomach will feel ‘full’ without added calories.
     
    #90     Jan 8, 2018
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