What is the best country to leave the US for?

Discussion in 'Hook Up' started by fatrat, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. nasdorq

    nasdorq

    fatrat, this thread would have been much more useful and far less time consuming if you stuck with the question of living abroad and left your politics out of it. Something to consider for next time.
     
    #181     Oct 29, 2007
  2. Eddiefl

    Eddiefl

    Miss Fatrat,

    What the hell are you still dong here. I thought you would of left over the weekend,, and moved to some other Country that is so much better than the US by now.

    You are a little Johhnie Taliban, that has probably spent the better part of a decade in a university..... Newsflash,,, Newsflash,,, SCHOOL isn't THE REAL WORLD.

    I envision a long tedious, difficult adjustment period for you in the foreseeable future once you graduate. Full of awkwardness and uncomfortable weeks/months/years.

    Good luck,, you should move to Iran,, see how much freedom you have there and how much they love Americans there.

    In some ways, I actually feel sorry for you, you are in college, you should be getting laid/drinking/trading part-time, enjoying yourself,, believe me the real works come after college.

    You will see, soon enough.

    E.F.
     
    #182     Oct 29, 2007
  3. fatrat

    fatrat

    This is difficult to do when you have as many money-losing idiots as you do on ET.
     
    #183     Oct 29, 2007
  4. dinoman

    dinoman

    #184     Oct 29, 2007
  5. doug casy was pimping argentina on jim puplava's broadcast this weekend.

    www.financialsense.com
     
    #185     Oct 29, 2007
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    #187     Oct 29, 2007
  8. The wealthy are already leaving or thinking about it.

    There is nothing unpatriotic about voting with your feet, specially when you feel that no one wants to hear your opinion.


    Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - Vol. 9, No. 246
    Why the Well-to-Do Are Escaping America

    Dear A-Letter Reader,

    In spite of the many disturbing trends I often write about in America, I still maintain a small glimmer of hope that our nation will endure and prosper.

    But that won't happen if we don’t clearly recognize our problems and address them. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem likely with the current crop of American presidential wannabes.

    While many Americans are still willing to stay and fight the good fight, many Americans have had enough. And they’re leaving.

    Millions of Americans Say “I’ve Had Enough!”
    A 1999 U.S. State Department survey suggested 4.1 million Americans lived overseas. Every year, about 250,000 U.S. citizens and resident aliens leave America to make a new home in some other nation.

    In 2005, the U.S. Bureau of the Census upped this estimate. They guessed that over 350,000 U.S. citizens and resident aliens would leave the United States permanently.


    Many of these emigrants are wealthy people who want to escape what they see as the excessive taxes and political tyranny of the United States government.

    John Gaver of Action America.org notes: "The problem is that increasingly, the wealthy perceive that they are under attack by their own government and they are taking the only rational option left open to them. They're taking their wealth and leaving."

    Figures Don't Lie
    The well-known pollster, Zogby International, recently conducted in-depth surveys on this subject. They asked adult Americans if they had ever considered moving outside the United States.

    With more than 115,000 respondents, the remarkable survey excluded anyone relocating offshore for less than two years. They also excluded anyone who relocated because of government requirements, the military or their jobs.

    The Zogby results are shocking – especially compared to the entire U.S. population (now about 303,116,000). The numbers below are for households, not individuals.

    1.6 million U.S. households already decided to move offshore and are headed in that direction.

    Another 1.8 million households are seriously considering moving and are likely to do it. Many have taken preliminary steps.

    7.7 million households are "somewhat seriously" considering moving and "may" do it.

    Nearly 3 million households are seriously considering buying a vacation home or other property outside the United States. Another 10 million are "somewhat" seriously considering it.
    This means that almost 10% of U.S. households are considering leaving the country. Another 10% are considering living outside the country part-time. Most analysts are ignoring this silent massive emigration.

    These would-be emigrant households plan to spend an average of US$260,000 on buying or building a house. They’re also planning to spend at least US$36,000 annually on living expenses outside the United States.

    In total, they represent hundreds of billions of dollars leaving the U.S. economy each year.

    One eye-opening fact: These emigrants include younger Americans. In fact, the single largest group that already made the decision to relocate offshore is households where the adults are 25 to 34 years old.

    The Soaked Rich
    The severe tax burden is just one of reasons why wealthy Americans want to live offshore.

    Yet, U.S. politicians and their allies in the news media continue the constant false drumbeat of class warfare that "rich" Americans do not pay their fair share of taxes.

    Only last week, would-be president Hillary Clinton proposed increasing estate and other taxes on wealthy Americans. She wants to transfer money to individuals who earn less by setting up government sponsored retirement accounts.

    The late U.S. Senator Huey P. Long of Louisiana used to call this type of calculated “robbing the rich to pay the poor” his plan to "redistribute the wealth."

    You often hear the myth that the rich don’t pay their fair share of taxes. In reality, the IRS’s latest figures reveal that the top-earning 1% of U.S. taxpayers earned 21.20% of the income, but they still managed to pay 39.38% of the taxes collected. In other words, the rich paid almost double their share, based upon the income they earned.

    In addition to paying double their share of taxes, there are other good reasons for this offshore exodus of the wealthy.

    Well-to-do Americans face frivolous lawsuits by the greedy, in ever growing numbers. They, like all Americans, have lost any semblance of privacy in their personal and business transactions.

    Their business dealings are saddled with onerous PATRIOT Act and Sarbanes-Oxley Act requirements that consume time and money. And they have little defense against having their property confiscated under civil forfeiture by the government money police.


    http://www.sovereignsociety.com/offshore2329.html
     
    #188     Oct 29, 2007
  9. JB3

    JB3

    fatrat,

    It's funny how you can't even figure out which country to go to. I thought you were supposed to be an intellect.
     
    #189     Oct 29, 2007
  10. A fair tax rate for these unpatriotic whiners would be a minimum of 78.8% tax on their income.

    These fucks ought to be paying 99% of all income tax.

    A corporate tax ought to carry 100% burden of the infrastructure tax and surcharges.

    That is, if it were fair.
     
    #190     Oct 29, 2007