all this talk of NLP at least makes me want to know what the hell it really is. jack hershey and "scientist" frequently mention it. someone who knows this stuff, give an example showing exactly what it is, please. anyone who knows me at all knows i'm not big on BS. i'm not claiming NLP is or is not BS. for the "NLP" bashers, i don't really know much about it, but it's probably just a term for something humans already do regularly anyway. maybe NLP is just a way to consciously make changes that do sometimes happen anyway. for example, you may already have discipline for some aspects of your life without really thinking about it, but if you read a book about discipline, you may learn how to improve your discipline even more. maybe reading about "NLP" is just a way to improve your mind CONSCIOUSLY in a way that you already do, but more effectively. i don't know if this is NLP or not, but i've said before that really believing you will do something is extremely important. when i posted that in another thread, some ass replied to me saying that he doesn't need to read a book for that stuff--WELL I DIDN'T EITHER! my point was, maybe by reading about how your mind works and how we think can make you more effective at making mental changes than you already are. anyway, someone explain NLP.