What is it that Trump and Kushner want from Putin?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by piezoe, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. exGOPer

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    #31     Jun 11, 2017
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  2. jem

    jem

    I am not sure why piezoe is so sure trump feels indebted to Russians. But, I can't rule it out he did put a lot of people around him with ties to russsia. A lot of establishment types and I know many who voted for him were not happy about that.


    Piezoe is going out there with a wild ass conspiracy... but I like it. I mean if only he was concerned about things like that on the left.

    Why didn't piezoe and the lefties here use this type of skepticism on the 2.5 to 150 million to the Clinton foundation or whatever that number was from Russians in exchange for her signing off on uranium... (regardless of how many others had to sign off too. )

    Why not be skeptical of the plane load of cash to Iran. Why not be skeptibal on the uranium one deal to russian the the uranium to russia deal that was OKed by Obama?

    Why not be a patriot and say stop Iran from getting nukes... for real.

    Look if you are going to be patriot now... why could all these lefty neo - conspiracy nutters have been patriots in the past. Should you not have been concerned with national security was when Hillary and Obama were screwing up the middle east. Where her top aid lover had ties to terrorists supporters. When VJ and Obama were cutting deals with Iran

    We should not be republican or democrat we should be lovers of freedom and country and people... not cronies.

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    by the way don't you all wonder if trump is such a big liar... why comey vindicated him on the not being under investigation.

    Trump made that odd tweet about tapes... and sure enough a leak happens. Then the times says a leakers tell it that Comey would say he never told trump he was under investigation.

    Then comey confirms trump was telling the truth.
    If you ask me Trump's play was strong.
     
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    #32     Jun 11, 2017
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  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Nothing to be skeptical about that
     
    #33     Jun 11, 2017
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Iran did not get Nukes under Obama...for real.
     
    #34     Jun 11, 2017
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Bush and Cheney invading and overthrowing the stable Iraqi government that kept terrorist out of Iraq is what screwed up the middle east.
     
    #35     Jun 11, 2017
  6. jem

    jem

    what about what hillary and obama did in libya and obama supporting the muslim brotherhood.
    and giving iran treaty cover to continue with their nuke problem as they continue to advance their missile technology and get uranium with Obama's permission after he gave them billions in laundered cash.

    lets be patriots. lets see all the connections...



     
    #36     Jun 11, 2017
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Libya was certainly a mistake but far from the biggest problem in the middle east which was caused by Bush and Chaney overthrowing the Iraqi government.

    There is no Iran nuke problem now or in the near future thanks to Obama.While Bush left Obama a nuclear armed N Korea Obama left Trump an Iran with no nuclear weapons.
     
    #37     Jun 11, 2017
  8. dumpdapump

    dumpdapump

    Really? So where do the billions from mobile frequency licenses go from auctions in Russia and where in the US or Europe? Or how about oil drilling concessions and other mineral rights? The contrast could not be starker. Who owns most of Russian oil companies? It's concentrated in a few hands of people who were nothing and nobodies before the iron curtain came down but who became virtually overnight some of the world's richest merely because of cleptocracy and nepotism. The majority of oil and natural gas companies in the West are owned by a broad based collection of investors. In fact they are owned indirectly by you and me. What assets do ordinary Russians own? Nothing but a heroin syringe and a few bottles of Vodka in the cabinet.

    Some of the above is obvious hyperbole but most are facts. Please do not ask me to prove each and every single word of the above nobody asks you on those boards to do the same. Most of what I mentioned can be looked up and verified on the internet in the non-fake news sections.

     
    #38     Jun 11, 2017
  9. dumpdapump

    dumpdapump

    Who do you think was behind the murdering by poisoning of inconvenient critics of Putin and the Russian state in London and elsewhere? Why do you think only Khodorkovsky was incarcerated but all the other oligarchs who ordered murders and killings and amassed incredible wealth through stealing and nepotism got away with it? On the other hand, which critics of the recent 5 or 6 US administrations can you name that were murdered by some at the top in government? Can you name even one?

     
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    #39     Jun 11, 2017
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  10. jem

    jem

    there is almost no change in status for the better... obama gave billions and released billions to iran. Iran is acquiring uranium. Iran is continuing to build missile systems which will during the term of this deal be improved to the point they can hit all over the middle east and probably the U.S.

    At the end of this deal Iran will have essentially zero lag time to nuclear weopons.
    This Obama treaty gave them cover to be become a major nuclear terrorist and you an cheering on Obama... get real.

     
    #40     Jun 12, 2017