What is going on with volatility

Discussion in 'Options' started by tradelosses, Jun 9, 2016.

  1. new polls shows 55% in favor of 'exit', strongest ever.
     
    #31     Jun 10, 2016
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  2. ajensen

    ajensen

    XIV is down more than I'd expect given the SPX move today, and Bloomberg at 2:45 PM says

    Brexit Poll Sees 10-Point ‘Leave’ Lead Two Weeks Before Vote

    which is consistent with the theory that Brexit uncertainty is causing vol to outperform.
     
    #32     Jun 10, 2016
  3. sle

    sle

    yup, vol was restriking for a while now... LDLV does works some time, especially when V is very low :)
     
    #33     Jun 10, 2016
  4. vol is so insane today..the out of money ES call I bought this morning is only down a single tick despite the market falling 10pts since then
     
    #34     Jun 10, 2016
  5. i960

    i960

    I don't get what is so "insane" about vol right now. Price is telling you something so why not trade it? No need to make it complicated.

    Personally I'm long VXN6-VXQ6.
     
    #35     Jun 10, 2016
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  6. Vix up 18% vs. Spx only down 1% ..the last time vol made such a huge move realtive to the SPX was on 7/17/2014 when the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 crashed. The vix went from 11 to 14 that day; comparatively the SPX only fell 20 pts
     
    #36     Jun 10, 2016
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    It's simple math, the smaller the denominator, the higher the % return.
     
    #37     Jun 10, 2016
  8. i960

    i960

    Exactly. I mean what about 8/24? VIX must have been up 350% while the market was down 10%. There's no point comparing these numbers.
     
    #38     Jun 10, 2016
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  9. what a joke this volatility is..the call option I bought on Friday morning is up 2 ticks ($25) despite to price being 10 pts lower

    Someone or a handful of firms of going balls to the wall on puts. I've never seen anything link this before in years of option trading . 220 day volatility futures are already at 22 vs 24 at the depths of the august crash. I didn't realize brexit was going to be such a big deal. It was something I occasional saw in headlines but payed no attention to it.

    There's probably collusion between firms to release scary-sounding headlines and traders who tipped ahead of time buy volatility. There was some bogus report 4 days ago about how the market could fall 20% on brexit, which was spread everywhere.

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/10/investing/brexit-stocks-eu-referendum/

    Some corrupt analytical firms tips his accomplice trader to buy puts and then releases this nonsense, which is disseminated on every major financial network and feeds on itself..
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2016
    #39     Jun 13, 2016
  10. I just don't see why the exit of the UK from the EU would have any effect at all on the economy. Especially in the states.

    I hate to be a conspiracy theorist but there are lot of people who don't want the exit (e.g. because they might lose their jobs ) and they are in positions where they could circulate a lot of fear. Maybe they are deliberately doing so.

    or maybe they believe it.

    or maybe they're right and I am an idiot.

    all possibilities.


    https://woodfordfunds.com/economic-impact-brexit-report/
     
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    #40     Jun 13, 2016
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