What is an edge?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by axeman, Nov 2, 2002.

  1. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell,

    When I first started trading, a winning day was rare,
    a winning week even rarer, and a winning month
    non-existant.

    Now I just consistenly win over the longer term.
    Sure I have losing days...but my winning days are
    about twice as large.

    So I guess I do have an edge. It simply bothers
    me that I cant identify it. :D

    Recently I had a day with 1 winner and *8* losers.
    Didnt phase me at all. Why?
    Because I traded well. I didnt lose because I traded poorly.
    I simply lost because it was one of those days. They happen.
    I knew I would get it back.
    Sure enough...the next day I earned twice what
    I lost. Confidence in yourself is nice.
    I'm really starting to feel like im "getting it". :)

    But I agree Nitro...that unknown in trading is scary.
    It took me so long to figure out how to make money,
    that if it stops working....sheeshh... could be a LOONG
    time before I figure out ANOTHER way to do it. sigh..

    peace

    axeman




     
    #11     Nov 2, 2002
  2. nitro

    nitro

    axe,

    I don't even want to think about it...I just keep plugging along...

    If the HARD edge goes away, I will probably start trading spoos exclusively and from the hip, where AFAIK, no one has a glaringly obvious edge over anyone else, save the "usual suspects."

    nitro
     
    #12     Nov 2, 2002
  3. dottom

    dottom

    You need a methodology edge. An approach or system that provides a positive expectancy.

    You need a psychological edge. The ability to trade your methodology and discipline to stick to your trading plan. This can be taught.

    You also need proper capitalization, leverage depending on your trading style, and proper money management to prevent risk of ruin. But these things are easily obtained so I don't consider them "edges".
     
    #13     Nov 2, 2002
  4. nitro

    nitro

    Those things are true indisputably.

    However, they are the foundation, not the house.

    As to how easy they are attained, I would say that:

    1) 60% of all traders don't have a "method" - they just hope that being methodical is enough
    2) 50% of all traders are undercapitilized
    3) 95% of all traders are psychologically ill-suited to trade
    4) 80% don't understand the most basic mathematics of trade/money management and the way that it relates to the "method" they trade

    nitro
     
    #14     Nov 2, 2002
  5. Aaron

    Aaron

    This must be why 285% of all traders lose money.

    :D
     
    #15     Nov 2, 2002
  6. LOL:D
     
    #16     Nov 2, 2002
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  8. i cant read any of these. they wont let me in:(
     
    #18     Nov 2, 2002
  9. The most common thing that traders don't have. :cool:
     
    #19     Nov 2, 2002
  10. kztd

    kztd Guest

    The edge is what the house has that allows it to make money. In roulette, for example, the house edge is 2/38 or > 5%.

    If you want to make $$ trading, you need a system w/ an edge that overcomes the house edge. Doubling up when you lose may forstall the inevitatble, but as a system, is edgeless.
     
    #20     Nov 2, 2002