What investments have inverse or very very very low beta compared to stock market?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by SoyUnGanador, Aug 18, 2022.

  1. zghorner

    zghorner

    I highly suggest you look into Chris Cole's stuff...He's a big long VIX guy. Research articles are next level.

    https://www.artemiscm.com/research-market-views
     
    #11     Aug 18, 2022
  2. BKR88

    BKR88

    Farmland (annual crops like corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, etc...)
    2-4% annual yield on top of valuation increases in list below (corn/soybean ground)
    Acretrader.com or Farmtogether.com (crowdfunding)
    FPI (equity)
    Farmland vs. S&P by year.
    farmland valuation changes. Illinois.png S&P.png
     
    #12     Aug 18, 2022
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Dividend growers? You mean like AT&T which has a great yield of 6%? HAH! Boy, let's take a look at the awesome power of a dividend grower...
    attterrible3monthchart2022.JPG

    Sorry, no, it sucks ass. I should know, I am long.
     
    #13     Aug 18, 2022
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Maybe Blue was thinking profitable ... capital gains-wise.

    Sitting and watching the grass grow while big Redwoods reach for the clouds ain't too exciting for those looking for income and appreciation.
     
    #14     Aug 18, 2022
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  5. deaddog

    deaddog

    No. I was thinking of something more like PEP
     
    #15     Aug 18, 2022
  6. deaddog

    deaddog

    I don't know. You asked for suggestions I gave you mine.
     
    #16     Aug 18, 2022
  7. "Profitable" as in "doing better than B&H in SPY/SPX"? Or "well, it did have a return of >$0 for the last 20 years..."?

    Again: all depends on which rubber ruler you're using. Got any "dividend growers" that beat the market long-term? More to the point: any that are guaranteed to do so in the future? Because that's what the OP is ultimately asking for.
     
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    #17     Aug 18, 2022

  8. Passionate kiss

    Passionate kiss in both bull and bear markets is like spider's web and always leads to undoing of fly
     
    #18     Aug 18, 2022
  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    What's wrong with PEP.
     
    #19     Aug 18, 2022
  10. Outside of hindsight? Nothing.

    Now, can you come up with a stock that will - not has, but will - perform that way in the future? Because - again - that's the only thing that will fit the parameters (no or minimal risk, upside only) as originally requested.
     
    #20     Aug 18, 2022