what if this is all a conspiracy?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by mute9003, Aug 22, 2021.

  1. Grantx

    Grantx

    So true. People absolutely hate hearing it though. Maybe it's an ego defense mechanism or something? Facing the fact that all your effort and hard work only ever amounts to a coin flip is just too hard to come to terms with I guess.
     
    #21     Aug 23, 2021
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  2. Fonz

    Fonz

    ...Elite traders :D
     
    #22     Aug 23, 2021
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  3. virtusa

    virtusa

    So you are a "trader" since 2005 and still make no money? That's logical if you think it is a coin toss. Because after so many years you still found no other answer.
    If people don't understand what is happening, it means they don't get the logic of these events. In other words they don't have the knowledge to understand what happens. There are patterns that repeat all the time. It took me more than 10 years to see that, but I saw it finally. You are still "blind".

    A lot of people confuse a coin toss with their own lack of knowledge. And these people have problems with their ego. Not the real trader, as he doesn't care about his ego anymore.
     
    #23     Aug 24, 2021
  4. themickey

    themickey

    If you were a day trader (which I'm not) I would assume that daily price move direction of each individual instrument you were tracking, you'd have a reasonable idea on where it was heading for the day, you'd know this due to knowing mkt behaviour, ie you'd have your own pet 'indicators' which was indicating the directional bias.

    For longer term traders, especially those holding multiple positions, they wouldn't know what direction each individual instrument was headed for the day because its not important.
    The longer the time horizon of trades, the less detail is required to study the micro moves.
     
    #24     Aug 24, 2021
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  5. Nobert

    Nobert

    Question everything.

    Even if you miss, at least one is thinking with the head of his own. Noneless, remain open to the very opposite ideas & able to change your beliefs in a flash, once the solid facts are being presented.
     
    #25     Aug 24, 2021
  6. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    Your conspiracy theory IS the conspiracy.
     
    #26     Aug 24, 2021
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  7. smallfil

    smallfil

    To some degree, technical analysis works. However, there is such a thing as a failure rate. No chart pattern works 100% of the time. Thomas Bulkowski in his book on chart patterns studied the chart patterns and studied the success rates, usually 50% at most, a lot of times, its value is having a structure of when to get in and out of trades. Nobody wins 100% of the time. A better approach is trading the long term trends. That is where the monies are.
     
    #27     Aug 24, 2021
  8. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    The two most important things I found about ta:

    - using range and volatility are the most important things to consider, and

    - using simple chart patterns and indicators is a complete epic fail; you need to combine it with market internals (vix, trin, in vs out day) and risk management. Also expect every breakout will be a false breakout and therefore use entries that are not obvious from horizontal support and resistance "dumb money" lines

    Remember always, the math is more important than the chart patterns
     
    #28     Aug 24, 2021
  9. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    You're assuming I'm a directional trader who relies solely on TA. Poor assumption. And since you, oh enlightened one, have such great sight to see TA patterns, let's see some account statements or other proof. Or are you another ET'er with nothing but hot air to back your claims?
     
    #29     Aug 24, 2021
  10. virtusa

    virtusa

    I don't assume that you are a directional trader who relies solely on TA aone, you use coin tosses too. LOL.
    You have no clue. That's not an assumption that a fact based on and confirmed by your statement.
    I don't use TA and I am not going to tell you how I see patterns.
    I am happy with people who see coin tosses, makes it easier for me to make money.
     
    #30     Aug 24, 2021