Hi Steve, I fully agree with your comment. I{ve been following for some time now, a Chaos Based indicator at this journal. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70418 To support the statement that there is order in Chaos, check this predictions. The black line is the prediction, the red line is the market. Prediction where computed when the black and red line splits. http://www.tradingpro.com/PastperformanceDJIA.html Take care. Dan