What-If China attacks Taiwan

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by earth_imperator, Aug 9, 2022.

  1. I don't know.

    Akuma
     
    #81     Aug 21, 2022


  2. It already has. All countries know that to stop America you get nuclear. then you have eternal peace. BEAR market famine ............. not India who will sell, North Korea has already initiated the process. I expect it will hit the news in 2 weeks

    Selling of nuclear bombs is going to go into a bull market 2022 - 2028

    Its the general zone where I am buying my next stock for the long haul. Yes, I will be LONG this stock. I have already made my selection.
     
    #82     Aug 23, 2022
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    Such openness shows the very real struggles within the CCP between Xi and his supporters and the moderate wing of the party.

    It lines up with my assessment that should Xi embark on a military invasion of Taiwan it will have to be a short, decisive victory. Any stumble will be spinned as the war of an autocrat to give the CCP the justification to end his tenure and purge the party of warmongers.
    Taiwan and the US startegy will be to hold off an invasion long enough and make it painful enough for the CCP to react.

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...-too-powerful-warns-against-personality-cult/

    Letter by Chinese Communist Party elders say party is too powerful, warns against personality cult

    This article was originally published by Radio Free Asia and is reprinted with permission.

    As ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Xi Jinping prepares to seek an unprecedented third term in office, three veteran party members have spoken out against the ongoing centralization of power and signs of a personality cult around the general secretary.

    An open letter jointly penned by CCP elders Dong Hongyi, Ma Guiquan and Tian Qizhuang calls on the party to amend its charter, deleting the phrase “the party will lead in everything,” which it criticizes as granting “unlimited power” to the ruling party.

    “This phrase first appeared during the Cultural Revolution on Mao Zedong’s instructions so as to restore order as soon as possible … but has no wider meaning,” the letter, posted by the rights website Weiquanwang, said.

    “There is no similar expression in the Marxist-Leninist classics or in the [principles of] reform and opening up [under late supreme leader Deng Xiaoping],” it said.

    “The main problem country faces today is that party committees have too much power, and their reach is overly long,” the letter said, accusing the CCP of mission creep and “tilling other people’s land.”

    It hit out at the party’s disciplinary arm, the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (CCDI), for refusing to publicize details of officials’ assets.

    It said CCP officials earn far more than many ordinary Chinese, and the situation has “seriously affected the party’s credibility, but they cannot see it.”

    Delegates to local People’s Congresses were once expected to hold officials to account, but had become “bystanders” under the iron rule of local party committees, it said.

    The letter slams the judiciary for its lack of independence, and for failing pursue those responsible for allowing the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in Wuhan to get out of hand before reporting it to the public.

    “For the party to lead everything goes against common sense and against logic,” the letter said, warning that cults of personality have been linked to the rise and fall of countries.

    It called for a prohibition on cults of personality around Chinese leaders, with corresponding sanctions and punitive measures.

    “Otherwise, cult of personality is likely to make a comeback, and the tragedy of the Cultural Revolution may be repeated,” the letter said.

    Danger of retaliation

    Weiquanwang said the three letter-writers are now in danger of official retaliation.

    “All three are now under strict surveillance and may be in personal danger at any time,” the post said. “But they are prepared.”

    “We will continue to monitor [their] situation closely.”


    Tian, a retired writer from Handan city, reported Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region party secretary Liu Ning to the CCDI in April for allegedly encouraging a personality cult around him.

    He told RFA on Friday that he stands ready to fight any attempt to prosecute him over the letter.

    “The state security police sent me a message accusing me of colluding with foreign forces,” Tian told RFA on Friday. “I told them they have to show evidence.”

    “I will be prepared,” he said. “If they really go after me, I will begin an immediate hunger strike. I’ve been tired of living for some time now.”

    He said the CCP’s insistence on controlling all aspects of life in China was “unreasonable, unconventional, unscientific, and not conducive to the development of human civilization.”

    Ma Guiquan confirmed the letter was authentic to RFA on Thursday, but said he wasn’t involved in publishing it online.

    Repeated calls to Dong Hongyi and Tian Qizhuang’s cell phones rang unanswered on Thursday night.

    Ma, 76, said he was well aware of the likely consequences of signing the letter.

    “Under normal circumstances, a CCP member should be able to proffer advice to an organization without any problem if they act as an ordinary citizen,” Ma told RFA. “But if circumstances change, it will be another matter.”

    He said he thought the changes requested in the letter were “nothing special, and not very stringent requirements.”

    ‘Cult of personality’

    Beijing-based political commentator Hua Po said Xi is concentrating power in his own hands to keep the party in power, and unified, but risks tipping over into a personality cult.

    “The boundary between authoritative rule and the cult of personality is a fluid one,” Hua said. “If a leader becomes well established, people in the lower ranks may start to praise and deify him.”

    “Then the leader may risk losing his sense of sense, and then, if he makes a mistake, it won’t be a minor mistake but a major disaster for the country and its people,” he said.

    Feng Chongyi, an academic at the University of Technology Sydney, said the growing cult of personality around Xi is linked to the CCP leader’s removal of presidential term limits in March 2018, paving the way for him to remain in office indefinitely.

    “I can only hope that there remain some people in the upper echelons of the party who will uphold party discipline and the law of the land,” Feng said. “Under the Chinese system, public opinion is neither here nor there, because they don’t need the popular vote.”

    “The state protects these thugs who are trying to eliminate all and any dissenting voices.”

     
    #83     Sep 6, 2022
  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    From The Washington Post, Sept 19 2022 by Amy B. Wang

    "The “60 Minutes” segment erroneously stated that U.S. policy since 1979 has recognized Taiwan as part of China. Under the United States’ “one-China policy,” the American government under various administrations has for decades acknowledged Beijing’s view without taking a position on the status of Taiwan’s sovereignty.

    Under the Taiwan Relations Act, which was signed by President Jimmy Carter in 1979, the United States agreed to provide Taiwan with arms to defend itself, and “to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan.” The language neither guarantees nor rules out the possibility of military intervention, though the United States has long practiced “strategic ambiguity” when it comes to what it would do."

    Make no mistakes about it, the US will respond to a China invasion of Taiwan.
     
    #84     Sep 20, 2022
  5. Indeed I fully agree. The internal struggles.
    And also I know that the USA has no internal struggles. She is a young, strong undivided powerhouse. Its truth. And the US shows none of the ambiguity of that which you mention. In fact...US foreign policy is a master stoke of pure genius. Taiwan should feel fully secure in the bosum of USA
     
    #85     Sep 20, 2022
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  6. </Sarcasm: off> :D
     
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    #86     Sep 20, 2022
  7. China is not as stupid as Russia, so I see very slim chances China will literally attack Taiwan, at least not physically.
     
    #87     Sep 21, 2022
  8. I bet it will :D

    Taiwan belongs to China, as much Alaska belongs to Russia. ROTFL! :)
     
    #88     Sep 21, 2022
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Hey, the USA bought Alaskan territory from Russia fair and square! Seward was his name? That was a bargain!

    Did China buy Taiwan? No, because it was already a country? Oy!
     
    #90     Sep 22, 2022