What has the GOP come to?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Nov 4, 2012.

Has the GOP lost its course?

  1. Yes. It needs to move to the center

    9 vote(s)
    34.6%
  2. No, although I prefer the original intent of the Tea Party.

    15 vote(s)
    57.7%
  3. I don't know.

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%
  4. I don't care.

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%
  1. Well for me, the downside of this election is that I won't have to congratulate all of the wonderful "social conservatives" on this thread.:(
     
    #71     Nov 7, 2012
  2. BSAM

    BSAM

    What has the GOP come to?

    Old mad white men.
    John McCain in 2016!
     
    #72     Nov 7, 2012
  3. BSAM

    BSAM

    What many so-called conservative brethren refuse to accept is that the USA has become a liberal country.
     
    #73     Nov 7, 2012
  4. yes, but that is how it started out. We fought against this English conservatism, and many died.

    Now here it is 200 years later, and we still have to fight against the conservative loyalists.

    I guess the battle never ends

    Are you for the King or for the people?
     
    #74     Nov 7, 2012
  5. What many so-called conservative brethren refuse to accept is that they are out of touch. they are stuck in the fifties.
     
    #75     Nov 7, 2012
  6. I don't totally agree with that.

    Basically, Romney lost out with blacks, hispanics and single women. I think some of that can be reversed without totally forfeiting the principles of the republican party.

    Blacks are a lost cause. They are the least educated, most ignorant and most prejudiced demographic. Large majorities of them are content to be treated as livestock on the democrat farm. Outreach to them is a waste of time in general.

    Appealing to hispanics is tricky. Amnesty and latino pride appeals are deeply unpopular with most republican voters and are in fact antithetical to the party's principles. Still, many hispanics are socially conservative Catholics who value hard work and often have small businesses. There is no reason they should vote 70% for liberal democrats. Tough nut to crack though because they reject the basic concept of American national sovereignty.

    Single women probably tipped the election to obama. Republicans have only themselves to blame. From the crazed rantings of Rick Santorum in the primaries to moronic outbursts from idiots like that Akins guy in Missouri, who managed to blow a very winnable Senate seat, to Rush Limbaugh's intemperate mocking of that Fluke woman, single women tended to hear a message that was deeply insulting and offputting.

    So some verbal discipline will go a long way with women. The party needs to accept victory on the abortion front and move on. Most people find abortion distasteful and morally repugnant, but they don't want pols in charge of it, just as we don't want pols telling seniors what procedures they can or can't have. Practice saying " I think abortion is a very personal decision involving unique circumstances. We want to provide every alternative to it, but in the end, it is not something the government should be involved in."

    Somehow ignorant single women became convinced that republicans wanted to deny them contraceptives. Unfortunately, lies like that only sprout on fertile ground. Women who heard Romney and Santorum arguing over who was tougher on abortion could easily believe it. In fact, Santorum probably would like to ban contraceptives.

    Appealing to single women does not require jettising core principles. Republicans need to relax a lot here and join the 21st century.
     
    #76     Nov 7, 2012
  7. BSAM

    BSAM

    A liberal USA was confirmed last night.
    Obama won the EC.
    Obama won the pop vote.
    It just seems apparent to me.

    Now's the time and it may be our way out of a lot of our mess: www.lp.org
     
    #77     Nov 7, 2012
  8. BSAM

    BSAM

    I've told all here in our little discussions, a "million" times:

    Never vote for a democrat.
    Never vote for a republican.
    Either way, the government wins.
     
    #78     Nov 7, 2012
  9. What you fail to realize is, women are now 51% of the worlds population. So the old mens government that you and I know and love is ending.

    The government will now start being more and more like your mother and your nagging wife.

    Women will be pro government and men will be anti government.

    They will be always trying to tell us what we should do, just like mom did. And we will always be saying we don't like it.

    Dad is no longer in charge. He was a hard task master and very rarely admitted when you did it right. But he was tough because he wanted you to be strong.

    Those days are gone.
     
    #79     Nov 7, 2012
  10. it aint that funny, if you don't get at least 50% of the vote you don't win. We can hold out longer than they can. They wouldn't be talking about the swing vote, they would be talking about the boycott vote.
     
    #80     Nov 7, 2012