What happens when a margin call occurs during vacation with other collateral in account?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by killATwill, Jun 14, 2024.

  1. mervyn

    mervyn

    name the broker, i don't believe any regulated futures broker would be that stupid.
     
    #11     Jun 14, 2024
  2. mervyn

    mervyn

    at that point you are completely done, 0% and 20% makes no difference. been there many times in 2022.
     
    #12     Jun 14, 2024
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    #13     Jun 14, 2024
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  4. mervyn

    mervyn

    your setting is probably wrong, disable omnibus account, make those two separated accounts.
     
    #14     Jun 14, 2024
  5. CannonTrading_Ilan

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    What about communicating with broker before going on vacation if you know you have positions that can get you in margin call?
     
    #15     Jun 14, 2024
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  6. mervyn

    mervyn

  7. Of course that's ideal. I'm just curious about the mechanics that take place when an account is in a cash deficit and there are non-cash positions (like options on futures). Do they get liquidated immediately to meet the deficit?
     
    #17     Jun 14, 2024
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  8. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    The way we work is we will try our best to reach out. If not able to, asses the risk of client going deficit. When it comes to futures with options it is not so black and white and each situation may be different. Brokers may have different policies.
     
    #18     Jun 14, 2024
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  9. I appreciate your candor. So you're saying that if there were a client with a $-2K cash deficit from a (conventional) futures loss, but a $+10K position in options on futures, you may actually use discretion and not liquidate that account's options on futures position?
     
    #19     Jun 14, 2024
  10. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    If you had more than one option, I would liquidate enough to meet the cash call after 3 days as long as account not in risk of deficit. If it was just one option...tough question...Client history with margin calls will be one factor, how much time left on the option is another just to name a few.
     
    #20     Jun 14, 2024
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