What happens to the Canadian $ if Trump actually gets them to join the union?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by long, Jan 7, 2025.

Would a Canadian national vote be FOR or AGAINST joining the union?

  1. For

    7 vote(s)
    22.6%
  2. Against

    12 vote(s)
    38.7%
  3. Parliament wouldn’t put the vote to the people

    12 vote(s)
    38.7%
  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You seem pissed that Canadians don't give a shit about your feelings on trade. Americans have been pissed about so much in recent years you can see it on this site. You just don't see that level of acrimony in Canada very often, and you certainly don't see racism and conflict at the levels in the US.
     
    #81     Feb 14, 2025
  2. volpri

    volpri

    If Canadians don't care then why all the reaction and why are they threatening tariffs against the USA? Of course, they care and seemly quite afraid. But why are they afraid and pissed if the USA is going to pay the price of the tariffs that they (the USA) enacts?
     
    #82     Feb 14, 2025
  3. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    I clearly said weeks ago do the tariffs across the board and we'll put ours on and let's see who blinks first. And you just keep hedging your bets saying it's all a ploy and you wouldn't really do the trade war ... . Oh I know, I know, you offered up bs reasons why you don't need our commodities and tried to ignore the immediate damage it would do to your economy. So what man stop whining and get on with it. Stop blaming the victim when this is ALL TRUMP.

    Afraid lol ? I though you said you knew some Canadians. We aren't weak people in fact we outlive you Americans by more then 3 years. Did I blink ? Not on your fking life.
     
    #83     Feb 14, 2025
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    WTF

    Why has ET suddenly become a cesspool of encyclopedic ignorance?

    I think I'm beginning to understand why the people of the United States choose a convicted felon and fraudster as their president.
     
    #84     Feb 18, 2025
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  5. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    China sucks!! Trump is the best!! Deal with it!
     
    #85     Feb 19, 2025
  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    There you go.. I occasionally remind him to take his lithium pills but he's forgetful...
     
    #86     Feb 19, 2025
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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Canada still have the network in place to do that...possibly reigniting moth-ball industries.

    I find it amusing on social media and including this forum, so many people were anti-Canada...the North is too cold...Universal healthcare was bad...

    Suddenly they want access to all of what they dislike. Fortunately, dual citizens of both countries and businesses of both countries have consistently taken advantage of their $USD spending power in $CDN...they're the ones who will navigate tariff wars and any migration/immigration population shits.

    Unfortunately, the poor in both countries will be punished the most by a tariff war and if it becomes accelerated...Canada will quickly join or increase it's trade with Europe at the expense of the United States as shown in the history when the United States decided to become "me first" and "ignore our allies" with a growth in Nationalism on the backs of colonialism (trying to expand its territorial under the facade it wants to be your ally while talking shit about you at the same time).

    The other commonality or negative is the rise of racism against diversity...against those that built the United States into a global power. It's a cruel recycle of hate and radicalization.

    wrbtrader
     
    #87     Feb 23, 2025
  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    From a historical perspective and current friends who serve in Canada's military...this is not true when you exaggerated (laughable) that Canada has no military (your exact words).

    Yes, Canada and the United States share a lot of cultural similarities but less so in it's politics. For example, Conservatives in Canada are very different than Conservatives in the United States along the reality that Canada has numerous political parties that supports it's great immigration diversity versus the two party system in the United States.​

    Further, almost all of the wars that the United States engaged...Canada declared war on the enemies of the United States before the United States, went to battle against the enemies of the United States without support from the United States ever since the Revolutionary War against the British.

    As soon as the United States is attacked...the United States dramatically and publicly ramped up its financial support, military support for Canada who was already there losing lives of its sons & daughters whereas the United States had been neutral in its patriotism.​

    The scary aspect, it's happen before, as soon as a civilian (someone who has never served their country in the military) starts talking crazy against its own government by removing it's source of income (taxes)...

    The Union begins to break apart or weaken...possible civil war. Simply, states like Washington, Oregon, California begin thinking about becoming a province of Canada if the civilian leader of the country begins saying states no longer need to pay Federal taxes to the government. The same with New York, Vermont et cetera...territorial that became a state of the U.S. through old forgotten treaties during colonialism.

    Every 20 - 30 years the same bullshit repeats by the same type of politicians until it ignites into tariff wars, embargo, or military war when one country feels like it's a global power and have the rights to invade another country for it's resources under the facade of peace.​

    As a former U.S. military officer who's a citizen of France, Canada, and the United States...Canada will lead the way again if Europe calls for help while the United States "thinks about it among our politicians" until we're attacked abroad or attacked at home.

    With that said, there's more fear in the United States in absorbing immigrants from other countries than Canada. Simply, there's less politics and less polarization in Canada in comparison to the radical shit (e.g. radical left, radical right...fuel for hatred) in the United States.

    The Unites States or one man's dictator dreams of owning Canada just to get at its resources, universal healthcare, and cultural wealth is only a dream cooked up by his new buddy who's an immigrant (South African/Canadian) of the United States...his name is Elon Musk (a civilian businessman) who admires colonialism and impregnating almost every women he dates...country takeovers, expanding borders to gain access to someone's resources) who never served and couldn't pass a military entry exam.

    Fortunately, we have a system in place within the United States that gets tired of the bullshit and then rises up when it realizes it needs diversity for strength...the U.S. military.

    wrbtrader
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2025
    #88     Feb 23, 2025
  9. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Fine I will qualify my statement. Canada has no military, relatively speaking.
     
    #89     Feb 23, 2025
  10. VicBee

    VicBee

    Even that qualified statement means nothing. Damn you're thick!:banghead:
    Relative to who... The US? The US military budget is the world's highest. Instead of gutting federal research funding, infrastructure projects, educational grants and so many other programs that benefit the country and population, Trump ought to cut 20% of the military budget for the next 4 years and, bingo, no more debt he's a hero.
     
    #90     Feb 23, 2025