What generates your trading signals?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Howard, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. experience
     
    #71     Feb 12, 2019
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Hope you find your indicator EsFocus.
     
    #72     Feb 12, 2019
  3. schweiz

    schweiz

    You will never find that indicator for the simple reason that a powerful system works on a set of indicators. There is not a magical indicator that will generate big profits in all kind of markets. Things are far more complex. That's why I do not believe in KISS.

    A good system has at least 3 dimensional indicators, not the standard x and y axis.
     
    #73     Feb 12, 2019
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  4. Howard

    Howard

    I agree with that. An indicator or a suite of indicators would need to be part of a larger system. I don't believe in KISS either.

    Time along x and price along y - what would be along z, then? Surely not volume?
     
    #74     Feb 12, 2019
  5. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Years ago, I thought the MACD -- and 90% of T/A stuff, for that matter -- was a grotesque fraud perpetrated upon guileless traders.

    I was a tick scalper at the time, and lived the 4-hour/1min chart. And what worked, worked. And what didn't, was (that) 90% of everything else.

    Then, late 2017, I start changing my time frame. :wtf: No, really.

    :D

    So! So, "it depends."
    "Right tool for the right use" and all that.:rolleyes:
    Who knew? :cool:
     
    #75     Feb 12, 2019
  6. Howard

    Howard

    Could you elaborate? On what market? And what time frame?

    My comments relate to ES. Day trading. I'm sure other markets may be different.
     
    #76     Feb 12, 2019
  7. If you're day trading is easier to generate a buy signal since its a shorter timeframe. But if you're waiting for the indicator to be oversold on all timeframes (short/medium/long), ideally that's the best but its a rare occurence and you will be leaving profits on the table. Same goes as using say 5 indicators. If your plan is for all 5 to generate "buy" signals before you execute, it probably very rarely happens.
     
    #77     Feb 12, 2019
  8. Howard

    Howard

    Thank you for your post.

    Generating a signal is not usually a problem. Generating a signal which is reliable and not false; completely different story.

    I do not use 'classical indicators' to give me signals yet, although I do have a few indicators which helps tell me what's going on.

    But your last comment is interesting. It reminds me of the trader Mark Weinstein in Market Wizards. He claimed to have a 100% winning strategy. One of the things I recalled him saying was how he'd use multiple types of analysis and he would ONLY enter if everything lined up perfectly.

    I also remember him saying how he never catched an entire move day trading indexes, but was happy to just take a small piece between the high and low.

    Maybe it's time to reread that book and particular interview. :)
     
    #78     Feb 13, 2019
  9. A signal doesn't have to be right 100% of the time. Casinos make millions from blackjack which has less than 1% house edge. A six sided die doesn't have to throw 1 2 3 4 5 6. A signal which is right more than half the time is a good signal. The point is to limit your risk when the signal is wrong.

    100% winning strategy in the very long term. Sure.
    But there is no such thing as 100% winning trade.
    CIS a famous Japanese trend trader once said 4 out of his 10 trades are wrong. He cuts his losses when they are wrong and lets it ride when its correct.
     
    #79     Feb 13, 2019
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  10. schweiz

    schweiz

    You should find the optimal point of information. Too little info is bad, too much info is bad too as it will become confusing and /or impossible for your brain to see the situation clearly. There are limits on the amount of info that your brain can manage/analyze. You have to find the essential info, quality instead of quantity. Increasing the number of timeframes will result in parabolic info; first it improves and at a certain point is will work counterproductive. Intraday you should find a few entries. If you cannot find them you should reduce the info. Adding 5 timeframes or 10 indicators will work opposite of what you try to achieve.
     
    #80     Feb 13, 2019
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