What generates your trading signals?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Howard, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. What he said
     
    #11     Feb 8, 2019
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  2. Visaria

    Visaria

    That's all I have.
     
    #12     Feb 8, 2019
  3. What he said. The Market is one of the greatest intelligence tests you will ever attempt. Wimps need not apply!!
     
    #13     Feb 9, 2019
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  4. Howard

    Howard

    Is that your own brain or the one of Al Brooks? :)

    Visaria bought Al Brooks' trading course

    If you don't have any insight to share - why the need to make a cheeky reply?
     
    #14     Feb 9, 2019
  5. Howard

    Howard

    Which is what exactly?

    It's the same story over and over again and he seem to have you all fooled, but not me.

    Backtesting for 60 years. Sore eyes. Charting by hand. 20 people working for him. In the end his method seems to be about averaging down contract after contract in order to hopefully get 1 tick out of a trade.

    I don't mind people posting drivel as long as it's harmless, but since he labeled my questions immature and implied I'm not putting in the hours or doing my own research, I couldn't resist myself.
     
    #15     Feb 9, 2019
  6. Howard

    Howard

    Did you not understand what I mean or are you being difficult on purpose?

    A pullback is a counter-trend move depending on how you define trend, i.e., down, if the trend is currently up.

    At some point in time - the counter-trend move will not be a pullback, but actually reverse the up trend and establish a down trend.
     
    #16     Feb 9, 2019
  7. Howard

    Howard

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    In this nice example where the channel is drawn after the fact one can easily identify the pullbacks on the ongoing down direction. Every minor up move is followed by a larger down move for a sustained move down.

    Eventually, the market trades out of the channel and reverses to an up trend.


    But what if the channel were drawn this way?

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    Or maybe instead we would have something like this...
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    Differentiating between or identifying a pullback and a true reversal is one of the most fundamental questions for a technical trader, IMO.

    If you wait for confirmation, you're often too late or miss a lot of the move. If you're too early, you're often wrong.

    If I try to enter counter trend, I always make sure I use a very tight stop which is typically B/E very fast since I know where I'm wrong.

    For me, I usually have other tools in my arsenal to gauge if we're looking at a reversal or a pullback, but it's not always easy. So in the end, it's always about probabilities and managing risk for the most favourable outcome based on what you know about your market.
     
    #17     Feb 9, 2019
  8. Specterx

    Specterx

    Lol to the attitude.

    What's a "pullback in a bear trend"? A bull trend that reverses. If it doesn't reverse before invalidating the bear trend, then obviously it wasn't a pullback. A "pullback" on a 60min chart will print as a "reversal" on a 5min chart, and the 60min pullback may itself be part of a reversal structure on a daily chart. So like I said, a pullback and a reversal are exactly the same thing, a change of direction. The only difference is in scale relative to the chart you're currently viewing, which is the basis for using multiple TFs.
     
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    #18     Feb 9, 2019
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  9. Howard

    Howard

    Forget about higher timeframes. Call it change of TREND then if that's easier.

    On the chart I posted above, every move up on the down TREND was a pullback, not a change of direction/trend which was down for the entire down move until it reversed at the end of the chart and established an UP TREND.

    That's why I'm inquiring about. Not higher timeframes (although they obviously can be used to support trading decisions on a lower time frame).
     
    #19     Feb 9, 2019
  10. Visaria

    Visaria

    Not a cheeky reply....an accurate one.
     
    #20     Feb 9, 2019