Come on neocons, come on chickenhawks, come on right wingers. Describe exactly what constitutes a victory in the war on terror. Tell us how this is not a never ending situation. Tell us how the US could actually lose to the terrorists, i.e. what constitutes the terrorists winning the war? What would have to happen to say: They won the war. Would the US have to surrender? If the US wins the war, do all terrorists have to surrender? If there is a terrorist event anywhere in the world, does that mean the war is not over? No, this is not a war unless victory can be obtained. So, what does victory look like? Describe it.