The Chinese revolution produced Mao Tse Tung who murdered about 50 million Chinese people in the Red Guard nonsense - I was there in Hong Kong at the time. Most unpleasant I can assure you. The American rebellion was about money ( taxation ) to fight the French in North America. Would be talking french now if the Brits hadn't saved your arses .
well, that's not the way they teach it in school here. First of all, we don't call it a rebellion, we call it a revolution. You might have beat us if the French didn't help us out. We still speak French in Lousiana, we didn't fight them for it, we simply bought it. So how come you don't speak German?
You are in my view welcome to be independent. We have enough trouble as it is with our own corrupt/useless politicians, who have been bought by yours ( Iraq war/Cold war/Korean war etc.). Do yours submit expense account claims too ? If they do I would expect you have a lot of fraudulent claims too, but I digress. Just to bring you up to speed on your history, we won the 2 world wars, OK your guys joined the fray late as usual and helped a bit. You lot might try swotting up on your Mandarin, you may find it comes in useful. Seemed to have lost your independent way a bit on the business front. Just saved GM tho. Just been watching the reality TV show Pawn Stars, set in Vegas. HAHA quite amusing.
=========== Good points, Mr Star.. Except capitalism & socialism are not @ all alike-unless someone can not discern between business & gov. Also check the constitution, wer'e a rep Republic, not a democracy[mob rule]. J im ''quantum fund''Rogers has a birthday on Oct 19,1987. My grandad has a birthday on Nov 2; my birthday is on Nov 2- nice new tea trend/friend.Happy birthday US.lol. I agree that religion is on the way out; but redemption is increasing. And its a good thing US is not an average country, 200 years is simply an average.
Murray You are wrong about animals. Ever heard of packs and herds? Both are examples of cooperative behavior.
Apologies to everyone. I am cruising the Mediterranean Sea for 10 days. I will posts reply when I get back from vacation. Thanks for the nice comments.
"Also check the constitution, wer'e a rep Republic, not a democracy[mob rule]." I had to research the difference between republic and democracy ( http://thisnation.com/question/011.html and http://lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/demrep.html) however I learned something. Hopefully you don't dispute that the US is a democratic republic (at least on paper. I would have some trouble arguing that the representatives actually always represent the people's wishes and not their own and their friends at times.) Vietnam and Macedonia are proud to be Socialist Republics. Therefore I think that "republic or not" is not really germane to my original question and intent. Two points come to mind though - since the original framing of the constitution, things have speeded up greatly. Should the four year turnaround be advanced to something like monthly or even weekly perhaps to keep up with the speed of change? (smile). Also, how does one ensure that the representatives actually follow the majority wishes? I am not clear as to how that was implemented in the original constitution or intents. "Except capitalism & socialism are not @ all alike-unless someone can not discern between business & gov." Woodrow Wilson wrote this => http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=2208 He says that they are almost if not quite one and the same and is a difference of organization and policy. (Warning - the essay is tough to read.) An easier read is http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-capitalism-and-socialism.htm I believe that the two organizing principles are very similar but mainly differ in who actually makes the decisions for the country. In one those with the most capital control and run the government (a small group) and in the other a small group of central planners make the decisions. In both, rarely do "the people" actually get some input and change. Neither group is subject to the control of the people (although many fantasies abound on both sides). Do the corporate leaders care more about their own salaries or adding shareholder value? Does the government bureaucracy care more about giving service or keeping their own jobs? Not much difference here either I suspect. We will have to agree to disagree on this point I guess. My question is still, how do we organize resources to distribute to "the people" and ensure a fair and efficient distribution? I think both socialism and capitalism have fatal flaws.
wooohoooooooooooooooooo Give the man a coconut The G7/G20 seem to be thrashing around in a turmoil Can they solve the world's economic crisis ? doesn't look even hopeful to me. There are going to be HARD lessons learnt - the hard way imho but don't worry - the Buffetts, Gates etc. won't be affected too much