What does Karen the Supertrader and her results say about volatility? Oversold?

Discussion in 'Options' started by shooter, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. lol, just mind blowing.
     
    #161     Mar 17, 2014
  2. I did not know that is what she stated. If that is the case, then yes she probably would have been nicked once or twice during that time period.

    I was using 2 SD as a benchmark to discuss how she or anyone else would have done using 2 SD as a guidepost which I use on some instruments and know others who do as well.

    I will tap-out. I am not that interested in her trading style. I stand by what I said, not one time in the last 14 years has the SPX finished outside 2SD, at least how and when I calculate next months levels.

    Best of luck
     
    #162     Mar 17, 2014
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    The way that in a sudden move one side will still make (or keep) the money... It might not be a conventional hedging but the point is that she is playing both sides....
     
    #163     Mar 17, 2014
  4. lol right. Sells the strangle for $6 and the puts go to $13. At least she made a bit on the calls! There were guys in the '87 crash who lost on OTM call vola when the market crashed.
     
    #164     Mar 17, 2014
  5. jamesbp

    jamesbp

    How do you calculate 'next month levels'?
     
    #165     Mar 17, 2014
  6. jamesbp

    jamesbp

    A bit like 'Portfolio' hedging ... or 'Texas' Hedging ....
     
    #166     Mar 17, 2014
  7. Texas Hedge:
    — n
    the opposite of a normal hedging operation, in which risk is increased by buying more than one financial instrument of the same kind

    Kind of insulting to Texans isn't it ??

    I guess it's OK since they wouldn't get it anyway.
     
    #167     Mar 17, 2014
  8. sle

    sle

    Let's take a different example... If you are selling hurricane insurance, does selling drought insurance make you "hedged"?
     
    #168     Mar 17, 2014
  9. sle

    sle

    IMSMR, it references Texan cattle ranchers who go long cattle futures while already owning cattle. Oddly enough, it makese perfect sense from a producer point of view.
     
    #169     Mar 17, 2014
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Well, can both happen at the same time? And nobody said anything about full hedge, but yes, as long as one position makes something on the other side we can considered it somehow hedged.

    "A hedge is an investment position intended to offset potential losses/gains that may be incurred by a companion investment. In simple language, a hedge is used to reduce any substantial losses/gains suffered by an individual or an organization."

    Even if one side blows, the other side still offsets somethin'.... :)
     
    #170     Mar 17, 2014