What does gun violence really COST

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Young males?
     
    #81     Oct 2, 2015
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    I knew you'd get around to Obama Obama Obama eventually today.
     
    #82     Oct 2, 2015
  3. Arnie

    Arnie

    That's one. What else is common?
     
    #83     Oct 2, 2015
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    High internet usage?
     
    #84     Oct 2, 2015
  5. nitro

    nitro

    I agree that digging deeper will lead us to the real truths as to the reason for the increase in these senseless mass shootings. No one denies that a gun doesn't fire itself. People kill people, not guns. Guns just make it really efficient to kill en-masse. Try the same thing with a knife. That's the point of this thread and people's point.

    I have a theory that borderline functional people don't get the help they need, particularly some sort of support group that keeps them mostly sane. Health care and marginalizing everything down the the last cent is the result of quantifying where every cent goes. There are always trade offs, and we chose to not pay for mental health. Heck, I remember how even a chess club kept crazy people off the street. If it were up to me, I would have huge tax breaks for people to open up places where people can get together an socialize cheaply. Bridge, Chess, Bingo, Backgammon, Scrabble, etc etc etc etc. Keep peoples mind challenged and occupied, and they can get through life one day at a time. Make it really attractive for small business owners to open these types of businesses. Art, music, whatever.

    Now the rents are so sky high, none of these places can exist anymore. People replace these challenging distractions instead by playing violent games, watching porn, Twitter, Texting, and other behavior that can really wack you out BY ISOLATING YOU and therefore desensitizing you. So, we have people that are thrown away, BIC-people, and some of them, they are going to go violently.


    However, reducing the number of guns, and probably far more important, having to go through some sort of rigorous process to attain a gun, might half the number of deaths. It won't eradicate it for sure, but reduce it, of that I am certain. Couple that with understanding that human beings need some sort of inexpensive outlet THAT BRING THEM TOGETHER WITH OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, and the two together would probably take us back to 1970s death by gun violence stats.
     
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    #85     Oct 2, 2015
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #86     Oct 3, 2015
  7. yes, so reasonable its scary
     
    #87     Oct 3, 2015
  8. where is all the passionate members now?

    is this only about scaring up hits???
     
    #88     Oct 3, 2015
  9. tripple A right on cue, cret\ates hits!:D
     
    #89     Oct 3, 2015
  10. nitro

    nitro

    Anti-gun control spending stays in the shadows

    "...Gun control advocates say there's a simple reason for congressional inaction on gun control: massive amounts of money spent by pro-gun groups on lobbying and campaigns supporting members of Congress. They often point to the failure of Congress to pass the Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013, which would have required background checks for firearms bought at gun shows. Although a 2013 Quinnipiac Poll showed a whopping 90 percent of Americans supported background checks, the act failed to pass Congress by six votes...."

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/02/anti-gun-control-spending-stays-in-the-shadows.html
     
    #90     Oct 4, 2015