What does gun violence really COST

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. This one was because the wife wanted to dump his loser ass ,

    he murders her mom also.



    Gunman Kills 5 In Georgia
    The suspect was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    A gunman shot five people to death in rural Georgia Friday night at two crime scenes that authorities believe to be related to a domestic incident.

    The suspect was later found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    Four people were declared dead at two nearby homes in Appling, Georgia, about 130 miles east of Atlanta. A fifth victim died being transported to the hospital, said Capt. Andy Shedd of the Columbia County Sheriff’s Office.


    After a manhunt that lasted into early Saturday, suspect Wayne Hawes, 50, was found dead at his home with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. The house had been set on fire and deputies suspect Hawes started it, WRDW reported.

    Law enforcement investigators believe the the killings occurred after Hawes discovered that his wife was divorcing him, a spokesperson with the Columbia County Sheriff’s Office said.

    Coroner Vernon Collins identified the victims as Roosevelt Burns, 75; Rheba Mae Dent, 85; Kelia Clark, 31; Lizzy Williams, 59; Shelly Williams, 62. It was not clear what relation they were to Hawes.

    Hawes’ daughter, Lauren, told The Associated Press that her father was a “ticking time bomb” and said he had made threats before.

    Her grandmother and cousin were among the victims.
     
    #361     Apr 25, 2016
  2. Arnie

    Arnie

    Obvioulsly, it was the guns fault.
     
    #362     Apr 25, 2016
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It should be noted that the suspect was a felon, and therefore any gun he possessed was illegally obtained. No gun law would have prevented it.
     
    #363     Apr 25, 2016
  4. That's because "those things" are not actually gun control per se. Rather, they speak to that root cause thing that you can't quite seem to latch onto. Some dot connections are implied. And, evidently, some such implied dot connections are missed by those for whom connecting them would not serve their narrative or purpose. Whoever they may be...
     
    #364     Apr 25, 2016
  5. Perhaps, unlike you, they're not fans of the status quo. Meanwhile, how's that Second Amendment utopia thing working out for you?
     
    #365     Apr 25, 2016
  6. #366     Apr 25, 2016
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    A lot of rambling there with no real point. At the end of the day, the left brings up nothing but controlling the gun when the gun is used. The right brings up mental health, lack of family unit, drugs, gangs, etc.
     
    #367     Apr 25, 2016
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The Second Amendment utopia is working just fine for me and mine. But then again, we don't use drugs, aren't in gangs, don't commit crimes, had a father figure in the family the whole time, didn't drop out of school, etc.

    For the others, not so much.
     
    #368     Apr 25, 2016
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #369     Apr 25, 2016
  10. As mentioned by a few of us in this thread, how are you going to "regulate" when a study such as this suggests it's near impossible to regulate...

    Study: Chicago Criminals Avoid Gun Shows, Internet Sales, Buy Guns on Street
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    by AWR HAWKINS30 Aug 20157,464

    A new study conducted by the University of Chicago Crime Lab, inmates in the Cook County jail said they get they guns on the streets from “personal connections” rather that outlets like guns shows and the Internet.
    The study focused on “inmates who were facing gun charges or whose criminal background involved gun crimes.”

    According to the Chicago-Tribune, Crime lab co-director Harold Pollack said the study shows that “some of the pathways [regarding guns] people are concerned about don’t seem so dominant.” He said very few inmates indicated using gun shows or the internet. Rather, they get the guns in undetectable ways on the street. He said the inmates know they run the risk of being caught by police but “were less concerned about getting caught by the cops than being put in the position of not having a gun to defend themselves and then getting shot.”

    The vast majority of the inmates used handguns to commit their crimes or protect themselves, very few cited using “military-style assault weapons.” And they said their habit was to get rid of a gun after one year because of the “legal liability” of being caught with a gun that could be linked to crimes they or others committed.”

    As for specifics regarding sources for purchasing guns, some of the inmates indicated that gangs have individuals with a Firearm Owners Identification Card who buy guns then sell them to gang members. Others indicated using “corrupt cops” who seize guns then “put them back on the street.”

    The inmates made clear they do not walk into gun stores to buy guns. Which proves a point Breitbart News, Gun Owners of America, and other gun rights groups have made for years; namely, that background checks place a burden on law-abiding citizens which criminals easily avoid.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-gun-shows-internet-sales-buy-guns-on-street/
     
    #370     Apr 30, 2016