What do these three situations say to you?

Thank you Jack for the reply. There is a lot in your post that I need to study. Already I see things that make perfect sense now!

 

...LOL... No you don't...!

 

Your answer helped clear some of my confusion. Thank you. But I still have a hard time picturing the typical Set B chart snippet.

Clearly, if you reverse only on "c" turns, the typical "c" to "a" to "c" chart must look substantially different than the drawing I attached yesterday because reversing at that chart's second "c" would place someone on the wrong side of the market.

Would you consider posting a chart with the surrounding turns or an idealized drawing? My ES chart from yesterday does not have bar 59 as an ob and I would just be guessing where your surrounding turns took place.

Finally, what is the Set B equivalent for someone who follows the "old school" methodology as outlined by Spyder?

-river

 

Here is page 4 of my daily log.

The time is in the lefmost columns. Then there is a column for the bar # to connect to the chart.

three columns show the turn components, sec cat and case are the headers ingnore the names.

Form is where permission columns begin for the dependent variable. Mostly you see the translation symbol (X) with a sub B or R to get the vector orientation of the translation. All internals are named in that column, as well. I check the squ column for squishing if I have the interest.

The arrow column is for the place to look for the "UL" which means Use Larger (volume).

A vetical double line ends the "permission for volume testing.columns". when premission is not given you see the middle of the chart cells have a line drawn through them.

An Event column is used to "name" the "true" volume equation for that bar.

When you see W for wait in a lateral AND the lateral is 4 or more bars, then a "retro" olumn is used to log the name of volume bar by bar is the lateral (a sub fractal). This a "failsafe" feature (there are three). If there is a BO of the rtl (a sub fractal notation) with T1 a BO,T1 event has occurred. The same is true for a BM, REV.

Between the event on the right and the permission on the left there is the volume test procedure work space. Lines show the progress of the test from beginning to end. I put a dot at the beginning and an arrow at the end, usually. If I'm casual, I just draw the line and I know it ends with a T for "true". True means the equation is true.

In TA every aspect is defined and the defining is done precisely with mathematics where the proper mathematics is used. This means Marketsurfer and his two employees are just wasting time and money and their mind's infernece is being permanently wrecked. See comments of others to MS to explain this to him. It is not expected that the moderators have any inference with any form of utility except for foul language inference.

the three part test procedure is seen as follows.

1. repeat: drop down one row in the column of the T that is the current status. Use the equation to test for a repeat.. If T then note in the event column. If False go to the reverse chron mode.

2. reverse chrone test. ...... and draw a line from cell to cell to get a True. Cell to cell means in the order of the row event names reading from bottom to top. If no true is found for the trend, then go to the next test.

3. Next test. Keep drawing the arrow to the right to find the next OOE event that is not yet used in the trend. you have to know the OOE's to do this.

Now we can work with the OB case. the form in the column is OB.
It has been made clear for a couple of decades that both ends of OB are statistically significant. However, this remains unknown to CW people and in particular quants.and their coworkers in the financial industry. data is not weighted properly as a consequence. I like this circumstance (I enjoy my difference) because it is advantageous.

So on the OB row, a line is draw to double the cells for testing. then the first event value is tested and the second is ALWAYS a Next value.

the pair of values is examined and if a P3P equivalent occurs the trend turn has occurred. It could be any one of the three turns.

On bar 65 we see an OB that yeilds a PP4 a. It is a c to c trade found by looking at a look up table. My look up table is called "Anticipation" (reversal) Sheet. It is found in the publication: "Seamless Continuous trading (SCT)."

Bar 67 is also an OB. the cellular compilation yeilds a PP4. the look up yeilds a non existant pair so the turn is the NEXT turn in the OOE of turns. This is an example of WWT ocurring. WWT is another of the fialsafe aspects of programing with precision.

Bar 69 is also an OB and it is a "c" turn. so a reversal trade is done at lock in.

If you make a graph that satisfies including all the nuances of the text about, you will have a visualization, de facto, on paper that will be viewable until the paper wears out from touching.

I am given words weekly. Bad Karma is removed by supplanting it with good overpowering Karma. the words ar on a yellow stickum folded to cover the adhesive.. I focus my mind on the words as I go about my business.

Here are the last five weeks in chronological order.

5 weeks ago:

stable
relaible
acepting
dependable

4 weeks ago:

dedicated
imaginitive
dedicated (uture tense)*

3 weeks ago:

reliable
Accurate
faithful

2. weeks ago:

dedicated
stable
consistancy

1 week ago:

careful
enjoyable
satisfied (future)

* future means that as the days pass this characterisic will be more and more manifest. For me almost all I do is done unconsciously. for me to become conscious of my unconscious I hve to sleep periodically som my mind is free to work at its job of meging the unconscious preception into the conscious mind's LTM as inference. Inference is 90% of preception; the other 10% is sensing.

We are going through manifesting an idea of how in an incomplete trend it ends imcompletely to make way for a new trend. Magnificently we assembled four types of trends. we could "see" the two classes into which the pairs fell.

Nicely we enjoyed seeing how a normal trend somtimes "drifts for longer periods and then ends.

The easier of the two FBO's is the c to c brief trends. admirably, we see the "glue" of dominant to dominant as not rocking the tiger in the boat on the endless sea.

But, beautifully and desirably we have to focus on the "unseen" whereby a ND status allows a D to D "c" turn to close out a trend and begin a new trend.

By considering all types of trends, we have an advantage. We always hold between turns. So most of trading is knowing that you know a turn is not present. WWT over and over. What replaces a non turn is the forward progression of equations each answering the correct question of the moment.

I have had some great experiences. After seeing ARGO I had to go through 8 sessions of EMDR to get the intrusive energy in thoughts to no longer contain unusable energy.

My last time of being involved at MIT, I found myself on the scen to various unsolved problems. At some point I was given permission to provide solutions. Years of constructing problems, certainly provides a lot of facts.

It seems that a lot of energy is being used in induction when a little deductive energy could solve a lot of problems.


Why did Pekelo get "dirty" and not be able to understand taking the offer of the market using real money in real time.

Why couldn't cooldudetrader remember 7 grade?

PA trading deals with a lagging variable. Why does MIT persist in fucking up analysis and telling it to Congress? Why tell anything to Congress? Thank goodness Congress did not act on Lo's bullshit.

 

The same.

Volume in any Hypothesis is the IF part. happily, we find price in the THEN part.

So now you see the beginning of the invention of the "System of the Operation of the Market".

You write out all the IF, ThEN'S to form a hypothesis Set and the name of the Hypothesis Set in general is PARADIGM.

Lets say you read this and still do not know which is the dependent variable or the independent variable.

All it means is that you mind can't handle how science and mathematics is applied to merkets.

Volume is the independent variable.

Your questions are unimportant.

Please do not answer my following questions.

What are you going to do now that you know volume is the independent variable? Keep betting in forex?

I am glad you found out the real Jack Hershey died along time ago. Everyone in ET knew that at the time he died.

I'm not he real jack hershey as everyone knows who looks me up.

 

Thank you for the substantive reply and the earlier chart that shows the Set B bars. Your chart snippet helps me to understand Set B trends.

As I start to work my way through your detailed post, I notice there may be an attachment missing.

-river

 

Just a simple observation

You joined in 04 (~ 9 years and 1 mo ago)

The majority of your posts are quoting / perpetuating/ praising Jack’s posts – in an apparent effort to “understand” his trading process


I get the distinct impression there’s a fox in the proverbial hen house

Dispute if you like, but all one has to do is look at your post history


Y’all kissing cousins possibly –


RN

 

Wrong. I ask Jack questions in order to help refine my methodology or understand his (which, in turn, may or may not help further shape mine). That is my only motivation.

Quoting Jack ensures he sees my question. He has written many times that he searches ET for his name.

If you want to believe my motivation is something other than refinement of my methodology, I'm cool with that.

-river

 

I hope this sticks.