What Do Hedge Funds Think of Technical Analysis?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by SunTrader, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. I may have misunderstood, but I interpreted you saying you didn't understand how it was possible to day trade on anything other than technical information. As such, I wanted to highlight how two or three traders in Jack's most recent book didn't use technical analysis as the base foundation for their day trading.

    I'm fairly sure they all must be using a chart when executing, though.
     
    #141     Feb 1, 2023
  2. I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
     
    #142     Feb 1, 2023
  3. taowave

    taowave

    We are..Im basically referring to a Kelly/Modified Kelly approach to position sizing....

    Im basically in Long and Shorts camp.





     
    #143     Feb 1, 2023
  4. Funny how the whole conversation went into the fundamental vs technical analysis :D

    Firstly, there are various types of hedge funds. They do not all fall in one pocket. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/111313/multiple-strategies-hedge-funds.asp

    Except for Quantitative hedge fund strategies i would generalize most of them are mostly fundamental. Therefore the analyst postings that were posted in this topic almost all require valuation skills.

    However, I have a cool book at home - The Heretics of finance. ()

    I remember one of the guys said that he was hired into an investment company which was dealing mostly with fundamental analysis. However, the fundamental team gave him a list of stocks which were a "buy" and then he researched the technical aspects to pinpoint the best point to actually buy the stock. A good point how both analyses can work hand in hand.

    And one more thing - why are many of them long? Because the companies and markets are expected to grow in the long term - GDP growth is in normal conditions expected to be positive.
     
    #144     Feb 1, 2023
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  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Which it is so profitable, quickly when you find a good stock to short.

    "But its not supposed to do that".
     
    #145     Feb 1, 2023
  6. Of course, if you find an inefficiency in the market, you will exploit it. And therefore make the markets more "efficient" :D :D :D

    That is the common argument why short-sellers are actually useful - they "help" the markets to reach the fair value of a specific stock.
     
    #146     Feb 1, 2023
  7. Zwaen

    Zwaen

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    Just curious, would volatility reduction strategies - with use of options - be considered as a viable strategy in the industry, or something as retail-bogus?
     
    #147     Feb 1, 2023
  8. I don't think we are. The post of contention:
    I don't see how leverage changes the risk/reward skew. Perhaps you can show me how with an example. Near as I can figure, leverage only speeds things up, which is great if you know what you're doing. But I don't think it makes something more or less relatively profitable (i.e., changes the risk/reward skew).

    Again, if I'm wrong, please show me.
     
    #148     Feb 1, 2023
  9. taowave

    taowave

    Look no further than the Madoff..How much money did he attract with imaginary low teen,stable returns??


     
    #149     Feb 1, 2023
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  10. taowave

    taowave

    Take a look at Kelly or modifed Kelly..
    Yes,its based of an assumption that you know what your hit rate is,but it should give you an idea on how alot of these US Investing champs put up such crazy returns..Minervini also has some good info on optimal R/R ratios given a know hit rate


     
    #150     Feb 1, 2023
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